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Mount Lemmon provides an equal amount of diverse rock climbing, from classic multi-pitch traditional routes to bolted sport climbs.

The Santa Catalina Mountains rising to an elevation of 9,157 feet above the desert floor of nearby Tucson, offer some of the best climbing in Arizona. More than 1,200 climbing routes can be found on the Mountain, making Mount Lemmon one of the most popular climbing areas in the state.

Almost all of Mount Lemmon's climbs are on south facing crags, offering the best winter, spring and fall climbing weather in the country. The Mount Lemmon Highway climbs more than 5,300 feet and passes through five of North America's seven distinct life zones, providing comfortable weather year round.

ADMIN NOTE:

Eric Fazio Rhicard has written up a mile post update to Sqeezing the Lemmon II. This should account for changes due to road construction in recent years. It's long, but I've posted it here, figuring this was the most obvious place for people to find it. Thanks, Eric, for all the time spent on this! --Forest

Squeezing The Lemmon II Mile Marker Update


In 2000 when the guidebook was published the highway was under construction. The work has ended and most of milemarkers have been moved. I drove the highway and recorded the actual mileages for the parking and pullouts to all but a few crags. Below I have listed the page and the new mileages for overviews, topos and text. It may be in the text or on an overview (OV) or overhead (OH). Sometimes if there is no mileage for a crag on the overview or overhead I have included it so you can add it. To update your guidebook here is the info.

P.1 Mt Lemmon Overview; Change Old Prison Camp to Gordon Hirabayashi and change MP 7 to 7.3
P.10 Mt Lemmon Highway Overview; Soldier Trail 1.4 to 1.3, Weathertop has no MP but you can add 4.5, Fee Pay Station 5 to 5.1, Gatehouse has no Mp but you can ad 6.1, Jailhouse and Garc Onilom has no mileage but you can add 7.3, Kesslers Corner to 8.6
P.12 Picture caption from .5 to .6
P.14 Hairpin OV .5 to .6
P. 19 Hidden Jewels OH 1.4 to 1.3
P. 20 Left of The Gatehouse 6.2 to 6.1
P. 21 It Cliff OH 4.7 to 4.5
P. 34 Prison Camp OV is now called Gordon Hirabayashi Overview.
P. 35 Prison Camp Area is now Gordon Hirabayashi Area
P. 39 Kessler’s Corner 9 to 8.6
P. 40 Lower Bear Canyon OV Green Slabs 10 to 9.9
P. 41 In Text below words Agave Spires 14.3 to 13.8 Bottom paragraph i in the Text above the words Trick or Treat 15.8 to 15.3
P. 44 Chessman OH 9.8 to 9.4 and 10.2 to 9.8
P. 45 In the text Park in the pullout at 10.2 change to 9.4
P. 50 Green Slabs and Panorama OV 10.2 to 9.9
P. 52 10.2 to 9.9 on the OH and in the text.
P. 56 MP 10 should be moved up road just past the Green Slabs
P. 68 Upper Bear Canyon Overview. Under Cornerstone write in 10.3, Chimney Rock 11 to 10.9, Wailing Wall 12.4, Dr. Death 13 to 12.6 is the trail and the first pullout up the road is 12.8 Rollinstone and Lost Hawk pinnacle 13.6 to 13.3
P. 73 In the text 11 to 10.9
P. 79 In the text 15.6 to 15.3
P. 85 Wailing Wall text 12.8 to 12.4
P. 86 Dr. Death ... OV Parking 13 to 12.8 The trail leaves road at 12.6 add it if you like.
P. 88 Text 13 to 12.8
P. 94 Rollinstone OV 13.4 to 13.3
P. 98 Windy Pt. East OV Andy’s Hat 14.1 to 13.6, New Wave Wall 14.2 to 13.7, Windy Point 14.3 to 13.8
P. 99 Text said 14 to 14.3 change it to 13.6 to 13.8
P. 100 Punch and Judy OV 14.1 to 13.6
P. 107 Andy’s Hat OH 14.1 to 13.6
P. 112 Rupley Towers OV 14.2 to 13.7
P. 114 Pullout Wall OV 14.2 to 13.7
P. 126 Indigo Tower... and Wind Wall Topo. Change Topo to Overhead and the MP 14.3 to 13.7
P. 134 Hunchback Pinnacle Area OV 14.2 to 13.7
P. 152 Windy Point West OV 14.3 to 13.8
P. 184 Windy Ridge OV Geology Vista 14.7 to 14.3, The Stones 14.8 to 14.4, Goosehead 15.3 to 14.7, Lizard Rock change MP 15.4 to MP 15.9 to just 15.6
P. 185 Text Geology Vista at 14.7 to 14.3 The Matterhorn mileage is close enough but you could change it to 15.7.
P. 190 Goosehead OV 15.2 to 14.7 A new pullout above Cowpunks is 14.7 too.
P. 191 Phallus and Goosehead OH 15.2 to 14.7
P. 195 Cowpunks Wall OH 15.3 to 14.7
P. 196 Eagle Rock OH 15.4 to 15
P. 198 Lizard Rock OV Middle Earth 15.4 to 15, Loose Goose 15.8 to 15.3, Lizard Rock 15.9 to 15.6, Outback 16.3 to 16.1
P. 200 Parking area is now just down the road at mp 15.2 so change it from 15.8 to 15.2 and move it down the road.
P. 201 Text first paragraph 15.8 to 15.2
P. 202 In the text change 15.4 to 15. At bottom of the paragraph there is no trail from Col. Birdseye.
P. 207 In the text 15.9 to 15.6
P. 209 Text 16.3 to 16.1
P. 210 Mid-Mtn. OV Palisades Ranger Station 20 to 19.4, Ridgeline and Boneyard 18.5 to 18.3, San Pedro Vista 17.8 to 17.3 Rose Canyon 17.3 to 17, Next mile marker down the road on the left is 16.2 to 16.1.
P. 211 Text Palisades ranger station 20 to 19.4
P. 212 Rose Cyn. Lake OV MP 17.3 to 17, MP 16.2 to 16.1 by Willow Canyon Circle cabins.
P. 213 Geology Vista picture caption 14.7 to 14.3
P. 225 In the text Willow Canyon Circle around MP 16.2 to 16.1
P. 228 San Pedro OV San Pedro Vista Pullout 17.8 to 17.3 and MP 17.3 to 17
P. 244 Druid OV MP 20 to 19.4



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A campsite at the Molino Basin Campground on Mt. Lemmon in early March 2003.  Not a huge number of campsites, but a very nice spot.  Rusty Reno (L) & Tom Coe (R).

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The Windy Corner area, from the road.

Blazing Apostles

Blazing Apostles

Hitchcock

Hitchcock

Panorama of the north side of the Santa Catalina mountains at sunset.  Visible climbing areas include Pusch Peak, Table Mountain, and the Domes above Catalina State Park.  Mt. Lemmon proper sits beyond the left edge of this photo.

Panorama of the north side of the Santa Catalina m...

Climbers on pitch 8 of North Face on Leviathan Dome. West side, Catalina Mts.

Climbers on pitch 8 of North Face on Leviathan Dom...

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Windy Point West. Going up?

Look out for these guys!

Look out for these guys!

Molino Basin after a monsoon storm.

Molino Basin after a monsoon storm.

Molino Basin after monsoon storm. Not to far down.

Molino Basin after monsoon storm. Not to far down.

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Hard to imagine,these cliffs are in the desert at ...

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During monsoon season Mount Lemmon becomes a water...

More Waterfalls!

More Waterfalls!

What goes up, must come down.

What goes up, must come down.

Golden light and storm clouds low on Mt. Lemmon.

Golden light and storm clouds low on Mt. Lemmon.

Chrysicolla and Fishhook Pincushion Cactus (Mammilaria grahamii), Mt. Lemmon.

Chrysicolla and Fishhook Pincushion Cactus (Mammil...

Only trouble makers hang out under brigdes.

Only trouble makers hang out under brigdes.

Very cool! Natural bridge just off the road after windy point.

Very cool! Natural bridge just off the road after ...

Underneath the bridge.

Underneath the bridge.

If you are climbing at Mt Lemon, you will probably be saying in Tucson. This will be your evening view, even from downtown.<br />Sunset on Grant Street. Photo by Tony Bubb, 12/24/01.

If you are climbing at Mt Lemon, you will probably...

Anyone know these climbs? They are below "Ridgeline" on a wall that ranges 100Ft tall on the uphill side and close to 250Ft on the downhill side. They have modern hardware and are mostly trad. They sure look like some nice lines.

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Multiple roofs on the downhill side of the formation below "Ridgeline."

Multiple roofs on the downhill side of the formati...

Impressive looking face and dihedral on the downhill side of the formation between "Ridgeline" and the "Red Diamond Wall." No trail leads to this area and it is overgrown! I'd be interested in cleaning up the place and get a trail in, but I'd like to know more history about the area first.

Impressive looking face and dihedral on the downhi...

Saguaros and approaching storm.

Saguaros and approaching storm.

Friction Rock, as seen from Chimney Rock.

BETA PHOTO: Friction Rock, as seen from Chimney Rock.

The summit crags, from left to right: Rappel Rock, The Fortress, The Ravens

The summit crags, from left to right: Rappel Rock,...

windy point

windy point

Has anyone ever been to this crag before 2007?

Has anyone ever been to this crag before 2007?

How about this free standing tower!  Anyone been to it other than Andy?

How about this free standing tower! Anyone been t...

Sunset on Lemmon

Sunset on Lemmon

A climber on the roof crack at a new area.  The tower is now known as the Control Tower.  More info soon.

A climber on the roof crack at a new area. The to...

A shot of Mt. Bigelow through the Rime Ice covered tree's near the Summit Crag's.

A shot of Mt. Bigelow through the Rime Ice covered...

Touring above the Raven's.

Touring above the Raven's.

Jim Scott climbing on 12/15/07.  Elevation 5700ft. High temp. 53 degrees in Tucson.  Climbed all day but had to dodge a bit of ice now and then.  That is 6 inches of snow on the north facing side of the canyon.

Jim Scott climbing on 12/15/07. Elevation 5700ft....

Aerial photo of the East end of Catalinas. Some crags pointed out. Munchkinland is hidden, but behind the ridge pointed to. The ruins can be seen easily.

Aerial photo of the East end of Catalinas. Some cr...

Mt. Lemmon Ice.  Jimbo on the thin stuff. Sorry we have been sworn to secrecy.  12/23/07

Mt. Lemmon Ice. Jimbo on the thin stuff. Sorry we...

Eric Deschamps showing us how Mt Lemmon ice is done.

Eric Deschamps showing us how Mt Lemmon ice is don...

Cathedral Rock (7,952 ft) from my balcony

Cathedral Rock (7,952 ft) from my balcony

Rattlesnake Peak (6,653 ft.)

Rattlesnake Peak (6,653 ft.)

"The Window" area and Window Peak (7,395 ft) on the far right.

"The Window" area and Window Peak (7,395 ft) on th...

Charlie King and Rev. Mcleod hiking back to the car near the Palisades Ranger Station. <br />Jan,08<br />

Charlie King and Rev. Mcleod hiking back to the ca...

Looking up at the "Boneyard" from the area below Ridgeline. The approach is not that far just very (Steep and Brushy)

Looking up at the "Boneyard" from the area below R...

Some of the local legends, ...or the usual suspects. These are the guys you either want to avoid or have on your side in a saloon fight.<br />

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Eric Ruljancich on Lady of the Knight 5.10.  This is a new route on the Chessman.

Eric Ruljancich on Lady of the Knight 5.10. This ...

Mister T's Chosspile!

Mister T's Chosspile!

Jimbo crimping hard on a new 5.11 that he and Eric put up recently at the Chessmen. April 2008

Jimbo crimping hard on a new 5.11 that he and Eric...

Nadia rapping down Tall Wall

Nadia rapping down Tall Wall

Josie on the El Torito extension project.

Josie on the El Torito extension project.

VB...nappin' on the ledge.

VB...nappin' on the ledge.

Josie Becker makes "The Crossing".

Josie Becker makes "The Crossing".

Peter Noebels on Serfs Up 5.12- at the super secret, not so new "show and tell" only area.  We would post it up but we don't want Isolation Canyon Manny ruining our cool new sport area by putting up trad routes.  Jimbo made me type this Manny.  We had a good laugh when we thought it up, hope you do too!

Peter Noebels on Serfs Up 5.12- at the super secre...

Jim and Erica Nappin' on the ledge of the Rampart.

Jim and Erica Nappin' on the ledge of the Rampart.

Peter Noebels on new route at the ..... area.  It is part of the show and tell only area we sport bolters are trying to keep trad climbers from ruining.

Peter Noebels on new route at the ..... area. It ...

Secret sport bolters only area.  Peter Noebels on a new 11- that we saved from becoming a trad route.

Secret sport bolters only area. Peter Noebels on ...

Spring time flowers on the Mt. Lemmon highway

Spring time flowers on the Mt. Lemmon highway

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rattlesnake den near catalina state park (maybe), ...

rattlesnake den near catalina state park (maybe), part 2 of 2. credit?

rattlesnake den near catalina state park (maybe), ...

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Old dog.....same trick...

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Helmet...near the end of El Torito.

Helmet...near the end of El Torito.

Helmet...starting the extension.

Helmet...starting the extension.

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Almost greasing off !

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I find that making a really ugly face helps someti...

Arizona Black Rattlesnake (Crotalus cerberus) on the way out from the Wiked Witch wall, Munchkinland area. This snake was irritated, but seemed very hesitant to strike. Although ready to defend itself if necessary! Neat sounding rattle, did it in real short bursts, like a shicka..... shicka....

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By Anonymous Coward
Feb 25, 2005

What is the camping situation on MT Lemmon?

By Wes Turner
Feb 25, 2005

camping on lemmon is sweet.You should call the ranger station to get an idea of what is open and what the temps are on different sites on the mtn

By Anonymous Coward
Mar 6, 2005

What will the weather be like for climbing on MT. Lemmon in early April?

By Forest Hill
From: Tucson, AZ
Mar 22, 2005

Mt. Lemmon has a wide variety of temperatures at any given time since the base is at approximately 2800 ft and the summit is at 9000 ft.

That having been said, April is a great time to climb here. The lower mountain is still comfy and it's likely that elevations up through windy pt (about 6000 ft) and even beyond will be quite climable.

By Anonymous Coward
Apr 17, 2005

Too bad about that damn road construction!

By Rob Jacobs
May 24, 2005

I belive that the road construction should be mostly done. Cant wait to start climbing again see ya all up there.

By Forest Hill
From: Tucson, AZ
Jun 1, 2005

I'd have a hard time calling the Mt. Lemmon road construction "about done." However, it's not too much of an impediment at the moment. Currently, there's very limited parking at Windy Pt because that's the part of the road they're working on. There's a single lane with a light there on a 5/2 cycle right now.

Personally, I expect that thhe Mt Lemmon road contruction will outlast all of us.

By andypeters
Jul 30, 2005

Just wanted to give a warning about the new hazards of that fancy Windy Point road art! While a climbing partner and I were crossing the road we observed a Ford Ranger spinning out of control. It seemed really odd because it didn't appear it was caused by driver error. When we crossed the road we then relized how slick the wet road actually was ! My partner and I are going to contact the DOT. We felt the road is going to be causing some real problem's with Bicycles, Motorcycles etc. Also my new E- mail address is andypeters520@msn.com.

By Forest Hill
From: Tucson, AZ
Aug 29, 2005

Yeah, I have to admit to having the same concerns. I'd assumed that they must have treated the surface so it wouldn't be as slick as it looks, but apparently not. Scary!

By andypeters
Dec 18, 2005

Hairpin climb, ( Cake Blocks) on the Solo Chain Wall on the right side of the canyon is only 1 pitch! The 2nd no longer exists! Also the original grade said 5.10 which was wrong, its more like 5.8- and a 60m rope is required !

By Charlene Woodley
Feb 19, 2006

What is the weather at Mt.Lemmon like in late September? How hot is it? I'm from PA and am considering a trip then but am concerned about the temps. since Tucson is still in the 90's in Sept.

By Charlene Woodley
Feb 19, 2006

What is the best guide book for Mt. Lemmon? And how much did the fires alter routes and aproaches as listed in the guidebooks?

By John Peterson
Feb 19, 2006

The best guidebook by far is Steiger. This book was a labor of love and it shows. One of those books that I'll always treasure.

And I just found one on Amazon for $8.00 (mint condition!). Sorry - but I just bought it since the pages fell out of my old one.

Nothing really wrong with Squeezing the Lemon - all the newer sport routes are there.

I don't recommend Green's Rock Climbing Arizona book. It one of the Falcon "drive by" guidebooks that makes me sick. Buy a guidebook from a local, not some guy cherry-picking the work of others.

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Feb 20, 2006

The choice of guidebooks depends mostly on whether you plan on trad or sport. Squeezing The Lemmon is good for both but is getting to be out of date. Tyler's Sport Select is a bit less out of date but covers only sport and not all crags. Eric seems to be coming out with a Squeezing update sometime soon.

Steiger's guide is WAY out of date, but a nice historical document. The BEST guide is the old under-the-counter Summit Hut guide of which I have one of about 10 copies.

By Jimbo
Feb 24, 2006

Charlene,
September is a great time to climb on Mt. Lemmon. You just pick your elevation to suit the temperature. When it's 100 in Tucson it,s in the 70's on top of Mt. Lemmon. Plus you can always find climbs in the shade.
While Steiger's guide is great from a historical perspective, the new Squeezing the Lemmon II is the the most current and comprehensive guide
available.

By Eric Rhicard
Feb 27, 2006

The "Sport Guide" that is mentioned by the venerable jbak is no longer in print. Squeezing the Lemmon II will tell you where the sport routes are. Simply look at the description Jbak if you see [B,C] that means it is a sport route. As you say, Squeezing the Lemmon II is a little out of date,but only if you climb here all the time. There are more than enough great routes for the visitor or newly arrived. A few areas have a lot of new stuff. Troll Wall, Boot Hill, and The Chessmen. Sun Spot Crags in Molino (great for winter) and The Steep (great for summer) are not in SQ II but will be in the supplement. With luck I will get a supplement out before too long. There are 1500+ routes in SQ II. that should keep most folks busy for a while. If you drag out the hexes Jbak you might even find a route or two you have not done. In fact if you can show me that you have lead half of the 1500+ routes in SQ II I will give you a supplement for free.

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Feb 27, 2006

whoa, dude, you're gettin foam on me.

BTW... 750 routes...750/30... that's only 25 per year (not counting repeats)...man, I must be close.

By Christian
From: Tucson, Az
Feb 28, 2006

Did SA put up some new sport routes on the Troll Wall?

Anybody have beta?

Thanks

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Feb 28, 2006

The basic answer to your question is "yes". Scott has put up a number of new routes both bolted and trad. Others here know more about the area than I (thank you Scott and Erik M for pointing stuff out). I only did one route and then it rained which I used as an excuse to bail. On the way out we did the right-hand route on the little pinnacle across the stream which I thought was quite good -- steep and devious.

By Jimbo
Mar 1, 2006

Christian,
Scott did do several new routes at the Troll wall. Sport from 5.8 to 5.11, mixed to 5.11, and cleaned up a bunch of the old routes so now they're solid and fun.
It's one of the better walls on Mt. Lemmon now.
Sunny until about 2:00pm these days.
I've only been there a hand full of times so my beta from memory would probably do more harm than good.
Go out and jump on some of them, sans beta, they're all good. Bring a rack, the gear stuff is sweet.

By Andy Peters
Mar 3, 2006

The Troll wall also has several well protected moderate trad route's. 5.7 5.8 and 5.9.These climb's are on the far left end and uphill.A 60M Rope is required as these climb's are about 100Ft.in height.Thank's to Scott A. for putting up these climb's,alway's nice to have more moderate's for us lower grade leader's!!!

By RadioShack
Mar 7, 2006

What regulations are there for setting your own hangers?

By Eric Rhicard
Mar 7, 2006

Sun Spot Crags, Mount Lemmon's newest area is located just north of Molino Campground and now has over 30 new routes from 5.7 to 5.12 with more to come. The climbs are both sport and trad and range in length from 30 to 100 feet. The approach is short 10 to 20 minutes depending on which crags you visit. You can climb here in the coldest of Tucson weather if the sun is out. If it isn't sunny bring a warm jacket and you can still climb.

By Erik Murdock
From: Tucson, Arizona
Mar 8, 2006

Check out the Arizona forum section for information on the first annual Catalina Climb n' Climb. During the annual event, you will bicycle past many Mt. Lemmon crags on your way to Rap Rock. Rumor has it that even Rhicard is, or will be, secretly training for this event.

By todd gangelhoff
Mar 12, 2006

EFR or John Baker. I have a bunch of Fixe hangers (50+) that I am willing to donate to the cause. Since I am retired whoever shoots me an email first gets them free of charge. Hope all is well in Tucson.
email me off the list.
Cheers
Todd
todd.gangelhoff@uchsc.edu

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Mar 12, 2006

Yes my brother. If I get 'em, I'll split them with Eric. Christ I just noticed I spelled your name wrong on my website. You were right about the Dry BTW.

jb

By Eric Rhicard
Mar 12, 2006

Thanks Todd and John. I will have to start saying nice things about you guys. Really appreciate the generosity.

By Jimbo
Mar 13, 2006

Todd, you are the man.
I think Eric should arm wrestle John for the hangers. We could take bets, and raise more money for the bolt fund.

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Mar 15, 2006

You don't want Eric to have ANY of them ?

By Luke Bertelsen
Apr 16, 2006

This one goes out to anyone in town who has a home wall or is building one. A new climbing hold manufacturer, Contact Climbing Holds LLC, is located right here in town. Check out the goods at contactclimbing.com. Monthly subscriptions available as well as discounts on bulk orders.

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Apr 18, 2006

Todd G. thanks alot for the hangers. I'll try to see they find a good home. EFR...I have some for you.

By andy peter tretiakoff
From: Tucon,Az
May 22, 2006

Do the "Summit Crags" now have limited access? I thought the area was closed till June 15th. or somewhere around that time!

By Timothy Roehr
From: Tucson,Az
May 23, 2006

Rappel Rock, Raven Rock, The Fortress, Branch-Out Crag and parts of Panarama Wall are closed from 15 March through 30 June.

By GDS
Jul 18, 2006

Would someone please consider starting a thread for the area known as The Helmet? Thanks.

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Jul 19, 2006

Not quite ready to broadcast in such a public forum although lots of folks have already been there. Email me if you want to go.

By GDS
Jul 20, 2006

John, thanks for the info. and the offer to show me the area. I'll drop you an email in the near future. I still use your guide to Milagrosa; you're performing a real service here for the climbing community.

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Jul 20, 2006

ha....I think that's debatable. I am performing a service for ME though....keeps me interested.

By andy peter tretiakoff
From: Tucon,Az
Jul 23, 2006

Was there any evidence that (makes you think) that climbers are the blame for this? Most climbers are sensible people! Most of the broken bottles and garbage at "Windy Point" and other areas are from (Jim Bob and his cousin) from the flat lands..

By Luke Bertelsen
Aug 10, 2006

Rock and Ropes of Tucson will be hosting both a Wilderness First Aid and Wilderness First Responder course at the following dates:

WFR: Oct. 12-20th

WFA: Oct. 21-22nd

To register, visit www.remotemedical.com or call 1.800.597.4911

Prices, course requirements/descriptions, and times can be found at the site above.

By Joseph Stover
Aug 28, 2006

Just to reiterate in case anyone has any doubts: Watch out for snakes!(and other things that can be dangerous also)

About two weeks ago I was out at Hairpin looking at the new landscape. It was sundown, when activity is higher I think. I came pretty close to stepping on a rattlesnake on the left side(facing the road) on my way out towards the tunnels under the road(I never noticed those before). It was about 3 feet long and about a 1.5 inch diameter, I think it was a female because it was really fat and tapered off quickly near the rattle, which someone told me is a charictaristic of females. It was curled up and immediately rattled, uncurled, and slithered off to the left once I hopped down a big boulder about 8 feet away from it and quickly became aware of it due to the rattle. Had it been curled within 2 feet of the base of the boulder, I would have been in high danger of being bitten. So watch out!

By Eric Rhicard
Aug 29, 2006

Having hiked, hunted, and climbed here for 25 years I have seen dozens of rattlesnakes. I have seen them every month of the year, from elevations of 2000 feet to the top of Mt. Lemmon (Murray Wall). I have seen my dog walk right over them. I have seen Bob Kerry step next to them. I have seen Bob jump straight up in the air when one rattled and land right where he started thus giving the snake ample opportunity to strike. With hundreds of friends and acquaintances covering thousands of miles not one has ever been bitten. Not that it can't happen. The chances are miniscule. If you do get bit try not to panic and get to a hospital as soon as possible and you will live. Statistics show that the people that do get killed are between the ages of 18 and 24, male with tattoos, and they have been drinking. Good luck!

By Timothy Roehr
From: Tucson,Az
Aug 30, 2006

The only way you can tell the sex of a rattlesnake is to use ultrasound. Have at it if you really want to know if it was female.

By Daryl Allan
From: Sierra Vista, AZ
Sep 13, 2006

Can anyone recommend a good guidebook for the Mt. Lemmon area? How far is it from Tucson? Thanks!D
Daryl

By Christian
From: Tucson, Az
Sep 14, 2006

Definitely don't get that "Squeezing the Lemmon II" book...just kidding..stop by one of the Summit Huts on Speedway or Wetmore and pick up a copy..

Mt Lemmon is directly north of Tucson and accessed from the northeast side of the city..depending on what part of town you live would say anywhere from 10-30 minutes to get to the bottom of the highway..

By Timothy Roehr
From: Tucson,Az
Sep 14, 2006

And I just renewed my permit too. I hope this leads to further reductions of these fees.

By andy peter tretiakoff
From: Tucon,Az
Sep 15, 2006

"Squeezing The Lemmon II" can also be purchased at "Le Buzz Cafe" 9121 E. Tanque Verde Rd.. 749-3903

By Luke Bertelsen
Nov 2, 2006

Was just wondering if anyone had any clue why someone would have added a bolt to the start of Party Pooters on Swim Fin right next to a perfectly good gear placement that several hundred people who climbed the climb before didn't seem to need.

By Christian
From: Tucson, Az
Dec 18, 2006

I don't know if it's that time of the year where they need to rack up the quota of tickets (for all I know, that could be an urban myth), but the sheriffs were particularly active up on the mountain this weekend setting up speed traps..Especially watch out for one coming down that hill before you get to the Prison Camp/Gordon Hirabashi entrance..If you're new to the mountain, make a note of where it is on the way up..

By andy peter tretiakoff
From: Tucon,Az
Dec 19, 2006

I've seen (DUI Checkpoints) set up in this area during the holidays, so it's best to have a (Designated Driver) after having a few of those 'Apres Climbing Beers' at the end of the day!

Cheers

By Christian
From: Tucson, Az
Feb 5, 2007

U.S. judge upholds Mt. Lemmon user charges
By Josh Brodesky
arizona daily star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 01.24.2007

http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/165947

By andy peter tretiakoff
From: Tucon,Az
Feb 5, 2007

Just purchased a yearly pass for "Saguaro National Park East." The cost was $25.00. I didn't really mind paying $25.00 till I heard a rumor from other cyclist's that I ride with that the yearly pass is going to be double that next year!! $50.00! :( Can't help to wonder what they are going to charge for the "Lemmon Pass."

By susan peplow
From: what day is this?
Feb 5, 2007

Previous to Jan 07 you could also use the National Parks Golden Eagle pass which is now no longer available.

The new "America the Beautiful - the National Parks and Federal Recreational Lands Pass" which is the new interagency program pass which cost $80 will gain you access to all Federal Lands. One pass fits all.

Looking for more info....

http://store.usgs.gov/pass/general.html

By Brock G
Apr 22, 2007

Do the Summit Crags have limited access yet or are they still closed

By Christian
From: Tucson, Az
Apr 23, 2007

As far as I know still closed through June 30th..

But then again I did just receive something from the Access Fund saying they managed to open the Rockfellows (Cochise Stronghold)for year-round climbing.

Yet the last time I was down there in January there were still signs saying the closure would be in effect March 1st-June 30th..

Anybody?

By Luke Bertelsen
Apr 26, 2007

The latest Access Fund newsletter did get the closure information wrong for Cochise. Due to Peregrine Falcon monitoring the USFS saw it prudent to reduce the length of the closure, but it was not lifted. I can send anyone interested a pdf file of the letter from the USFS listing the closure dates for the domes down in the Stronghold. This letter is also posted at Rocks and Ropes. I also mean to contact the Access Fund regarding the error in their latest newsletter so they can post a correction.

By Dave Dobler
Apr 30, 2007

On top of Christian's and Luke's... - headed up the hill yesterday and saw a 'rescue' staging and initiating at Molino to Summit Crags. Appeared through the binocs to be a dumb ass in street clothes stuck -panicky - trying to look cool awaiting rescue. Kind of depressing as such foolishness pretty much blows the idea of a raptor closure...

By ecivey
From: Sahuarita, Az
May 30, 2007

I'm wondering about an area called Southpark that's in the guidebook but isn't listed on any online guides. Has anyone been there recently and can offer info or opinions about the climbs?

By Jimbo
May 30, 2007

ecievy,
South Park has several very good and long climbs. It's well worth the apporach and nice and cool this time of year.
While North Park also has some nice stuff I would climb out South Park before I bother with North park.
Give yourself some extra time for the approach the first time in. If the trail is over grown this place is hard to find.

By Steve Pulver
From: Tucson, AZ
May 30, 2007

I went to Southpark once before the fire and tried to go back after the fire, but the approach trail was gone. Maybe it's been cleaned up by now.

By Christian
From: Tucson, Az
May 30, 2007

Damn if you guys ever find that place (Southpark) please let us know how to get there..

I failed the first time and then using Google Earth I thought I had it figured out and still couldn't find it..both post fire..

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
May 30, 2007

On the topo map that shows the top of Mt. Lemmon, look for "Lemmon Spring" and then look a bit north to Peak 8686.(www.dot.co.pima.az.us/gis/maps/mapguide...arizona... works too)

Just NW of Peak 8686 are some packed isolines. That is South Park. Just W of Peak 8686 is a little peaklet. There is a steep, north-descending gully between these two. I think that is where you drop down to the climbs.

East of Peak 8686 is the hairpin turn in the summit road. If you park ABOVE the hairpin at about elev 8500 and then do a south-sweeping contour around to 8686 you will do about as well as you can. Total walking distance should be less than a mile but it will feel longer. It may take a bit of looking and it was possible to get lost even before the fire. It's a beautiful, very isolated area. A part of Mt Lemmon that few people ever see. And there are some good routes there too.

By Christian
From: Tucson, Az
May 30, 2007

Cool, thanks John.

By ecivey
From: Sahuarita, Az
Jun 12, 2007

Wasn't able to find Southpark...but we did have a nice 2 hour hike somewhere in the vicinity of it.

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Jun 12, 2007

okayyyyyyyyyyyyyy..........try this...

Google Earth:

Park at: 32deg 27' 08" N, 110deg 47' 00" W

Crag at: 32deg 27' 00" N, 110deg 47' 29" W

Swing south between these points maintaining more or less constant elevation.

By Jimbo
Jun 13, 2007

Don't feel bad. Your not the only one to wonder about in search of this crag. My 1st time out we wondered for 2 hours or so but we were rewarded with finding the friggin thing.
My advice. Hook up with someone who's been there or use the GPS.
If I wasn't going to the Needles for 2 weeks I'd take you there.
Here's the deal. Park like you would to get to the Reef. But the trail busts up the road cut across from the big pull out on the left side of the road where the rusting ski lift parts are. Not from the pull out on the right side of the road just past the guard rail. Follow this trail up the ridge and look for a bend to the right at a big dead tree. (About 300 hundred yards up the hill) You will soon be skirting the steep hill side, with the canyon that runs underneath the Reef, on your right. Follow this around until your at the saddle that's on the opposite side of this canyon. From this saddle there will be a trail that busts sharply right. That goes to North park. Keep heading along the ridge past the saddle on a trail that will take you to South park. You won't see the crag until you start heading steeply down hill, in a hundred yards or so it will appear on your left. The trail goes under all the climbs.

Good luck.

By ecivey
From: Sahuarita, Az
Jun 13, 2007

Thanks. I'll be trying again soon...

By WSnyder
Jun 29, 2007

I took a trip out to Southpark and I listed Southpark as a new area with some current (as of 06/30/07) directions and maps. Basically the old trail sucks ass! Follow the new directions and maps posted under Southpark and you should get there with minimal effort.

By Christian
From: Tucson, Az
Jul 11, 2007

Mt. Lemmon is on the cover of "Rock & Ice" this month.

Nice pic of Eric Scully on Steve's Arete.

By strongbad
Oct 14, 2007

Check out matterhorn bouldering page.

By Tevis Blom
From: Boulder
Nov 12, 2007

I will be traveling and in the area, I'm hoping to find some Bouldering while I'm there. Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for traverses, steep jugs or thin vert, Maybe v1-v4. Won't have a pad, so need some user friendly areas. Or where can I buy a book about Bouldering near Tucson?

Thanks A Bundle

By Joseph Stover
Nov 13, 2007

Here is the link to the old bouldering guide by Tyler McMillan:

http://www.math.arizona.edu/~jstover/personal/climbing/Tucso>>>>>

For easy access, I would recommend Gates Pass, Matterhorn boulder, Silverbell boulders, and Jibba Jabba boulder. I have never bouldered much around here though, but have been to these places. Hope that helps.

By Tevis Blom
From: Boulder
Nov 15, 2007

Thanks for the link, the guide should help out quite a bit, Cheers

By ecivey
From: Sahuarita, Az
Dec 9, 2007

Does anyone know anything about a new gym going up on the east side of town? I've heard rumors of it for a couple years now, and have even seen a website for it, but they just keep saying it keeps getting pushed back. Does anyone know if it's a reality or just someone's pipedream?
Thanks.

By Chris Duca
Administrator
From: Hinesburg, Vermont
Dec 10, 2007

Heading out to the Tucson vicinity in late March of '08, and am wondering if climbing at Mountain Lemmon will be tolerable, or will it be way too cold and incliment?

Also, my wife and I will be there for roughly a week and want to get a good sampling of the place--what areas at Mt. Lemmon should we visit if we want to climb trad/sport from 5.9 to 5.12?

Thanks!

By Christian
From: Tucson, Az
Dec 10, 2007

A couple of down suits and plastic boots and you should be fine. :-)

Just kidding, Mt Lemmon is year round, maybe a few slightly nippier days still in early March, but that means maybe high 40s, low 50s (for highs?) on the lower parts of the mountain below Windy Point..Look for the south facing crags for almost all day sun and east facing for sun through early afternoon..I don't know the exact temps but it's really not cold unless you want to climb with snow on the ground in the elevations above Windy Point..Any snow below that usually melts during the day unless it's a storm day..

If you climb 5.10 trad you can't beat Chimney Rock for cragging..Milagrosa is probably good for harder sport climbing around that time of the year. I believe some areas near Tucson like The Dry and the Homestead have more of the steeper cave-style sport climbing.

By Chris Duca
Administrator
From: Hinesburg, Vermont
Dec 10, 2007

Christian--

Plenty of ice up in these parts, so I plan on leaving the cold-weather-suffer-gear in the closet, thank you very much!

Yeah, I was checking out Chimney Rock...that place looks pretty rad for trad. What other areas/routes are worth visiting/climbing?

Thanks again.

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