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Forbes Route (West Approach) 

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FA: Dr. Forbes and Sr. Montoya
Type: Trad
Consensus: 5.3 [details]
Length: 1 pitch, 60 feet
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Submitted By: Nick Kuhn on Mar 26, 2002


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Scrambling down the tricky part between the roped ...


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An ascent of the Forbes Route is an outing not to be missed, earning three stars not for the technical climbing, but for the experience as a whole. The mountain will make you earn its summit; with a lengthy approach, unmarked trails, fickle weather by Southern Arizona standards, and virtually unprotected yet straightforward climbing, it defines the classic Arizona mountaineering experience. Hikers who know how to belay and rappel can ascend this route if accompanied by an experienced climber.

The drive: To approach from the west, take Highway 86 to Sells. Turn south on what is probably the largest intersecting road in town. If you drive through Sells and start to think you missed the turn, you probably did. You should be heading towards the tiny town of Topawa. Babo will dominate your view to the left until you finally reach a sign pointing to the left for "Baboquivari Peak." There is a building/office on the east side of the road here. Turn east(left) and follow the dirt road until it forks, take the right fork, and follow it to its end at the Babo trailhead. My 2WD sedan made it fine, though I would have liked a bit more ground clearance. Bob Kerry's guide states the campground has water, tables, shelters, and is beautifully maintained. We found no running water, no shelter, and the place looked positively UNmaintained. Plan to bring all your own water, food, and stove if you expect to do dinner and camping. Supposedly there is a $3 use fee, but after 15 minutes of searching for where to pay both at the site and at the office back by the road, we gave up. Hope you're stocked up on good karma.

The hike: Unlike Forbes' and Montoya's first ascent, I recommend you do not do this in July. The hike in could be brutally hot between April and October. Late Fall or early Spring will yield comfortable hiking weather, just bring some warm clothes for the summit. The trail begins from the campground's parking lot, and climbs relentlessly towards the peak. The trail is only indistinct in a few spots, and even then only briefly. The views of Babo and the surrounding land grow en route. After about 4 miles and 2500ft of elevation gain, the trail will intersect The Great Ramp, an appropriately named feature that leads up and left and provides non-technical access to Babo's upper reaches. Some 3rd class climbing is engaged here, and a few old metal brackets still exist along the route. Continue up trough a small section of trees until you reach the base of the ladder pitch, with its distinctive metal brackets.

The climb: Rope up, clip the pathetic bolts if you choose, and don't fall. There are small ledges the whole way up and the climbing probably never exceeds 5.5, and then only for a couple of moves. A small tree with multiple loops of webbing stands at about 100 feet of rope. This is your anchor. There is also yet another ancient bolt several feet to the left of the tree, if you're nervous about using a single natural anchor. Chances are the bolt will fail well before the tree will, though. Belay your partner, exit right, and ditch the rope; you won't need it for the rest of the climb. Note your progress as you continue up as there are a couple spots where it may be easy to take the wrong line on the descent. Follow a worn trail to a spot that seemingly dead-ends. Look left and scramble this 10ft rock face and hike the remaining trail to the flat summit. The view is amazing. Chances are you'll have it all to yourself too.

The descent: Follow the trail back through the brush and downclimb the 10ft rock section. This is the hardest part of the entire climb. Return to the tree and use your judgment on the integrity of the webbing and rap rings. As you rap back down the pitch, you'll be smiling because you remembered to bring a 60m rope. The hike back down The Great Ramp can be tough after a long day. If it's wet or snow covered, a belay from those occasional old brackets may not be unreasonable in spots. Crank back to your car and don't forget to take a picture of the towering peak as you're driving away.


Protection 

Three or four quickdraws, webbing, rap ring, and a 60m rope. Pro consists of old bolts and even older metal brackets. A solitary 8-inch tree provides the top anchor.



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By Bob
Apr 13, 2004

I thought the write-up was very good, however, I had a few comments - I climbed West Forbes route on 4/5/2004:

1. The Baboquivari park sign has been knocked down or otherwise removed.

2. I thought the "Great Ramp" was about six miles - not four - three hours from trailhead at about 2 mph hiking.

3. I thought the "Great Ramp" climbing was more difficult than 3rd class - my climbing partner, a hiker, almost wanted to be roped up. If it hadn't been difficult to set up the belay, I probably would have.

4. I used the tree with the slings only for my final rappel - in my opinion, it didn't make a very good belay anchor. If you continue past the tree, there is a great ledge with several small trees in the back that you can use as anchors. I tied in there, sat down, braced my feet against a rock, and belayed my hiker buddy, who struggled mightily (he was wearing hiking boots and climbing on wet rock). I didn't have any problems with the load - I felt like I could have hauled an elephant up that slope.

Likewise, on the return trip, I didn't feel comfortable letting my hiker buddy climb to the tree without a belay - so I set up the same belay again. Since I had to belay him, I deemed it easier and safer to go ahead and lower him to the bottom rather than let him rappel - he had only rappelled about four times at Windy Point.

I have a detailed write-up in progress on the Forbes climb/hike where I will go into details

By Nick Kuhn
May 11, 2004

For some reason, Bob's comments on this route show up under the Homepage's Comments link, but not under this route description. His own trip report is an excellent, thorough description of the approach, hike, and climb, especially under less than ideal conditions. Lots of pics, too. Here's the link: http://www.climbaz.com/climbs/baboquivari/forbes.html

By Anonymous Coward
Sep 13, 2004

This looks like a really cool climb. Would it be too chilly to do around X-mas time?

By Nick Kuhn
Sep 16, 2004

Well, temps are subjective, aren't they? Babo will probably be warmer than a Colorado 14er and colder than Mendoza Canyon. Excluding a winter storm, I would anticipate summit temps in the 30s-40s (~20 degrees cooler than Tucson). However, even with recent good weather, snow and ice can linger on the Great Ramp and the technical pitch. It's not uncommon for winter parties to pack ice axes and crampons and use them. Adds some spice to desert climbing...

By jbak
From: Tucson, AZ
Jul 9, 2007

The Forbes route is a great outing in a fantastic place but the 5.6 rating is a bit much. Anyone who has any actual climbing experience can easily 3rd-class the route. After a winter storm it's a whole different deal though.

By James DeRoussel
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From: Tucson, AZ
Mar 30, 2008

As of 3/29/08, there are two new-ish 3/8" bolts on the ladder pitch and a two bolt/chain anchor atop the pitch. This new hardware eliminates the need to use either the tree or the old sketchy hardware.