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By good pro
Jun 15, 2014
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This is a male infested web site , hmm for such a supposedly counterculture activity it is sure reflective of the classic male dominated social strata inherent within society. Having said that where all ladies at I need some back up !!!


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By lynne wolfe
Jun 16, 2014

Copy that. Rare poster, mostly troll the "for sale" threads, but I can get the rope up there.


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By Nick Wilder
Site Landlord
From The Bubble
Jun 16, 2014
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According to Quantcast MP is 75/25% male/female. And climbers, at least those using MP, are hardly counter-culture (and I doubt there have been any such claims). That same link shows that, compared to average, climbers are significantly more educated and have a higher income than normal.

From our internal Partner Finder data, there are 15,603 men and 3,298 women, which is closer to a 82/18% split.


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By Brian Scoggins
From Eugene, OR
Jun 16, 2014

Nick, whatever the member demographic is, the regular posters are almost entirely men; which makes perfect sense given the standard treatment of women around here. shoot, mp has made real progress, we typically make it to the second page of a woman's call for female partners before the guys start chiming in.


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By ErikaNW
Jun 16, 2014
Rapping off the Matron October, 2010

But how many of those 3,298 women are some incarnation of Ellenor/(now good pro)?


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By Tom-onator
From This Galaxy
Jun 16, 2014
Tom-onator

ErikaNW wrote:
But how many of those 3,298 women are some incarnation of Ellenor/(now good pro)?

^^^
Beat me to that one ErikaNW.
I'd wager 3,200 of these women are trollenor. So that makes you one out of the 98 legitimate female accounts on MP.


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jun 16, 2014
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

Ladies, you would be doing yourselves a great disservice by aligning your interests with the OP.

With that said, I think that any time you have male predominance, as you do here on MP, there will be some level of sexist assholery and/or misogyny and the like.

However, when someone does cross the line, others that are more ummm... refined(?) are usually very quick to step in.

Now, it sucks that people can't employ a bit of tact in the first place, but I think it speaks well for our community when other men are consistently willing to step in and address the social maladies that some of us undoubtedly possess.

So, hang in there ladies. There are dicks in every group, and the size of the group definitely plays into that equation. But there are also decent, well-adjusted people that attempt to balance the scales. I'm not claiming to be one of them, but I try.

As for the OP, anyone that begins a thread with "cock infested" is probably more interested in attention (which, incidentally is the ONLY impetus driving trollenor's postings) than addressing some sort of social inequality.


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By janetclimbsrocks
From Blue Bell, PA
Jun 16, 2014

Same here! I'm also a rare-to-post member that usually haunts the for sale forums, but I'm here as well!


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Jun 16, 2014
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

good pro wrote:
This is a cock infested web site

Uhhh?

good pro wrote:
Having said that where all ladies at I need some back up !!!

Yeah, because sexism and sexist language are male traits.

Hi Elanor, Here is something to think on. Calling for "back-up" agaist sexism whilst being overtly sexist is irony, and not in a good way.

The people who "pick on you" may happen to be mostly male, but it's not because you are a female. If I trap and kill a rat or a roach, I don't care what it's gender is. I just don't want it in the house. Same goes for troll.



Nick Wilder wrote:
According to Quantcast MP is 75/25% male/female.

About the ratio at the crags, it seems.


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By good pro
Jun 17, 2014
prof pic

Uhhhhhhh......

Bubster thanks for your interest further reiterating the male dominance , and chauvinistic behavior rampant on this website,
Let me restate the title

Are there any other women on MP


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Jun 18, 2014
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

good pro wrote:
Uhhhhhhh...... Bubster thanks for your interest further reiterating the male dominance , and chauvinistic behavior rampant on this website.

Yeah, and women who refer to the site as 'Cock infested.'

good pro wrote:
Let me restate the title Are there any other women on MP

Several of my female climbing partners are, but I doubt you will get much support there.


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By Buff Johnson
Jun 18, 2014
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good pro wrote:
This is a cock infested web site...



Hello, You rang?


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By Doug Hemken
Administrator
Jun 18, 2014
On Everleigh Club Crack.  Photo by Burt Lindquist.

Nick Wilder wrote:
According to Quantcast MP is 75/25% male/female.... That same link shows that, compared to average, climbers are significantly more educated and have a higher income than normal. From our internal Partner Finder data, there are 15,603 men and 3,298 women, which is closer to a 82/18% split.


Keep in mind that Quantcast results are modeled, not measured. And the partner finder result is affected by general openness to hearing from random people on the Internet. So it's not really possible to come up with a good margin of error for these figures - they are just in the ballpark.


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jun 18, 2014
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

good pro wrote:
Uhhhhhhh...... Bubster thanks for your interest further reiterating the male dominance , and chauvinistic behavior rampant on this website, Let me restate the title Are there any other women on MP


LOL. Someone got a pocket thesaurus/dictionary. Bravo.


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By camhead
From Vandalia, Appalachia
Jun 18, 2014
You stay away from mah pig!

Regardless of the percentage of M/F here, this site is not the most welcoming for women, and from my observations (as a male, granted) definitely has a more unawaredly sexist atmosphere even then, say, rockclimbing.com back in its heyday.

mountainproject.com/v/great-women/107964940#a_107965442

mountainproject.com/v/best-female-climbing-pictures-post-up/>>>


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By Marta Reece
Administrator
From Las Cruces, NM
Jun 18, 2014
On Rabbit Ears

There is one part of MP where the ratio of males to females is decided less unbalanced - photos of climbers. But to be fair, over-representation can be found there not just for women but also for very young climbers and even very old climbers.


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By Alicia Sokolowski
From Brooklyn, NY
Jun 18, 2014
Hanging out waiting for Die Antwoord to come on stage

I'm a girl. I post here not entirely infrequently. I mainly use the site to find used gear and partners. Both have worked extremely well for me. I actually don't feel like it's an unfriendly environment to women at all. Perhaps sometimes it is generally unfriendly, but that's the internet for ya!


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By Marta Reece
Administrator
From Las Cruces, NM
Jun 18, 2014
On Rabbit Ears

I too have not found the site unfriendly to women. I am a female administrator, and while there are invariably differences of opinion, gender, as far as I could tell, has not been an important factor in any of those I have been a party to. However, I would not be surprised if a woman who is so unfriendly toward men as to use the term "cock infested" would find men less friendly toward her. I too tend to be prejudiced against those prejudiced against me.


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By doligo
Jun 18, 2014
Jose Cuervo Fruitcups dirtbag style

Jake Jones wrote:
LOL. Someone got a pocket thesaurus/dictionary. Bravo.


Next step - MSWord Grammar check for punctuation!


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By Kai Larson
From Sandy, Utah
Jun 18, 2014
Tour Ronde North Face

OP is a troll.

Why continue feeding it.


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By Tradster
From Phoenix, AZ
Jun 18, 2014

Good pro sounds like a sexist pig! Go troll somewhere else.


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By good pro
Jun 18, 2014
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I am a real person with real feelings, I am not elanor I love climbing, and I love Mountain Project too. I have poured my heart into this website. However I this thread reiterates how male dominated this website how many male posters on a thread screaming for female responses ?? quite disturbing


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By Tom-onator
From This Galaxy
Jun 18, 2014
Tom-onator

good pro wrote:
I am a real person with real feelings, I am not elanor


We're pretty sure that you're elena-nor

good pro wrote:
I love climbing, and I love Mountain Project too. I have poured my heart into this website.

Big sniff followed by several tissues...

good pro wrote:
However I this thread reiterates how male dominated this website how many male posters on a thread screaming for female responses ??

Prescription crashing...

good pro wrote:
quite disturbing

No argument there


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By Short Beta
From Troy, MI
Jun 18, 2014
Leading a 10 at Chocolate Factory

Male "infested"? Are they bugs? Don't confuse equality for women with man-hating. As a woman I can represent myself just fine without worrying what exact percentage of male to female climbers are clicking through this website.
And rock climbing is not counter-culture. It is its own culture, and a beautiful one at that. And please dear God don't think that this single website represents the entire culture of climbing. WTF?
I admit to feeding the trolls and they are f-cking stuffed.


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By Kelly P
From The Bubble, CO
Jun 18, 2014

The first rule of the internet is: There are no girls on the internet.


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jun 18, 2014
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

good pro wrote:
I have poured my heart into this website.


Joined: May 28, 2014.

Routes: 0

Areas: 0

Page Improvements: 0

not so much.


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