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Add sun exposure to route beta

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JeffL · · Salt Lake City · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 65

It would be amazing, especially for desert routes if the aspect or sun exposers was listed. Climbing in 90+ temps is doable in the shade, not so fun in the sun.

On the flip side, this same route in February would be enjoyable If you caught it while still in the sun

Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,960
JeffL wrote:It would be amazing, especially for desert routes if the aspect or sun exposers was listed. Climbing in 90+ temps is doable in the shade, not so fun in the sun. On the flip side, this same route in February would be enjoyable If you caught it while still in the sun
I agree... Aspect would be best. Bit of a heavy lift to get integrated at this point I would think...
Nick Crews · · Bozeman, MT · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 55

This would be AWESOME! And even if it's not universal, some routes with this info would be better than none.

Nick Wilder · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2005 · Points: 4,098

Thanks guys, this is on our list to do. My current thinking is that this would be a setting on the area (the "leaf areas" that contain routes - not areas that contain smaller areas). As Morgan points out, even once we add this field to the database, they'll all be empty and it will quite a job to fill them in.

Maybe a GIS genius can figure it out from lat/lon points and a tool like ArcGIS?

Lora Durance · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Nov 2013 · Points: 41

Agree, agree! Yes, please! And agree... sounds tricky.

Kai Huang · · Aurora, CO · Joined May 2008 · Points: 105
Nick Wilder wrote:Thanks guys, this is on our list to do. My current thinking is that this would be a setting on the area (the "leaf areas" that contain routes - not areas that contain smaller areas). As Morgan points out, even once we add this field to the database, they'll all be empty and it will quite a job to fill them in. Maybe a GIS genius can figure it out from lat/lon points and a tool like ArcGIS?
Perhaps have it under each route and allow users to add date/aspect/time frame under each tick? I have personally done that on routes that I am projecting. Besides beta, I would also list morning/afternoon sun, sun between 11 and 2, or sun after 2pm in my Notes section under Add Tick.

Once there is enough data, perhaps then roll up to the location section.
James Hicks · · Fruita, CO · Joined May 2012 · Points: 131
Nick Wilder wrote:Maybe a GIS genius can figure it out from lat/lon points and a tool like ArcGIS?
Someone smarter than me and with access to a DEM (Digital Elevation Model) and the lat long info could maybe make that happen. Unfortunately my ArcGIS knowledge is not of the genius level. But there are free DEM's available, they aren't the most accurate but I don't think that would really matter too much in this scenario. I work in the GIS field so I will ask around and see what thoughts some other folks might have about that.
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,960
Nick Wilder wrote:Thanks guys, this is on our list to do. My current thinking is that this would be a setting on the area (the "leaf areas" that contain routes - not areas that contain smaller areas). As Morgan points out, even once we add this field to the database, they'll all be empty and it will quite a job to fill them in. Maybe a GIS genius can figure it out from lat/lon points and a tool like ArcGIS?
Leaf Areas makes a lot of sense.. but also having it for individual routes would make a lot of sense.

As for ArcGIS, DEM, and aspect... blogs.esri.com/esri/arcgis/…

Apparently others have already done it... maybe we can get access to their maps?

I use a LiDAR scan to locate cliffs based on the color of the region I'm looking at... unfortunately, the colors determined are merely White for cliffs facing NE to SW, and black for SW to NE facing cliffs so it doesn't quite give you the NESW breakdown we'd be looking for. In this layer cliffs facing SE to S show up as errors in bright green ;-)

arcgis lidar
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