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Add Onsight/Redpoint/Top Rope to ticks

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drock3 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 13

I'd love a drop down that let me assign a style for the ascent style for each tick. Ideally this info would show up in the tick breakdowns as well.

ErikaNW · · Golden, CO · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 410

I would like this feature as well.

Jay Eggleston · · Denver · Joined Feb 2003 · Points: 21,326

Put it in the comments area .

drock3 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 13
Jay Eggleston wrote:Put it in the comments area .
I do, but that doesn't show up in the tick breakdown graphs.
highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion · · Colorado · Joined Oct 2012 · Points: 35

I would like a few things added as well. For me, I want a FFAWCQBAC, or First Free Ascent While Clenching a Quarter Between my Ass Cheeks.

For my girlfriend, FFFAFBHGUFFWGUICBRLE First Female Free Ascent For Brown Hair Girls Under Five Foot Who Grew Up in Colorado But Really Likes Europe.

James Schroeder · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined May 2002 · Points: 3,166

Even if it was just a check box for "led" - I can handle the rest in the comments if need be. But knowing what # or % of pitches I have been leading lately would be useful information for tracking progress and performance.

Zac St Jules · · New Hampshire · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 1,188
nicelegs wrote:I would like a few things added as well. For me, I want a FFAWCQBAC, or First Free Ascent While Clenching a Quarter Between my Ass Cheeks. For my girlfriend, FFFAFBHGUFFWGUICBRLE First Female Free Ascent For Brown Hair Girls Under Five Foot Who Grew Up in Colorado But Really Likes Europe.
I just spit saltines all over the place.
Sean Foster · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 2,145
Z.St.Jules wrote: I just spit saltines all over the place.
Is there a drop down menu choice for that?
percious · · Bear Creek, CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 1,190

i would also like this feature.

Paul Hunnicutt · · Boulder, CO · Joined Sep 2006 · Points: 325

Please make this an optional requirement for listing a Tick. I don't want to have to choose between those three limited options. I put my stats in the comments box and am fine with that.

Will there also be an option for Pinkpoint, Flash (as in climb first time but with beta), Headpoint, Headpoint onsight, Lead with hangs, Lead with hangs and pulled on a few draws, TR with hangs, TR clean, etc...

What about Multipitch? Onsight P1, lead P2 with falls, follow P3 clean, etc...

I could see this being a useful feature and would add to the tick breakdown, but hopefully it is thought through in it's execution. Forced to pick Onsight/Redpoint/Top Rope is insufficient IMHO.

Zac St Jules · · New Hampshire · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 1,188

Im training for the saltine challenge.

Alex CV · · Greater NYC area · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 235

Let's just make sure it doesn't become 8a.

JPVallone · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2004 · Points: 195

Could we please add (BrownPoint) for an onsight toprope, and a (Dirty BrownPoint) If you had to work your top rope to make a clean top rope ascent. These are most of my ticks and I'm trying to keep score.

James Schroeder · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined May 2002 · Points: 3,166
Alex Chenvainu wrote:Let's just make sure it doesn't become 8a.
I don't think we need to have points and ratings, but 8a does have some nice features in terms of "the pyramid" and its associated color coding. The year-by-year comparison of "top tens" is good information to see progression/stagnation/regression.

Long story short, I think allowing people to have as detailed a database as possible for tracking their climbing and/or training history is a useful function for those of us inclined to statistically or graphically analyze our performance.
ze dirtbag · · Tahoe · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 50

does anyone still keep a climbing journal? that's where i keep track of leads/notes/topos/gear.

Jay Eggleston · · Denver · Joined Feb 2003 · Points: 21,326

I keep track of my climbs on a spreadsheet.

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 974
Alex Chenvainu wrote:Let's just make sure it doesn't become 8a.
We can be 6a instead
James Schroeder · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined May 2002 · Points: 3,166

Different people climb for different reasons, and belittling a person for suggesting an improvement that that person would use, and would have little if no impact on the folks who wouldn't use it seems kinda lame. I see a lot of finger-pointing about "having fun" and "right reasons" and "if you have to tell other people...." and it seems to me that the only people trying to show how cool they are, are the ones acting like they are above tracking their routes in the manner the OP suggested. Ask yourself this:

If you're so rad, and tracking the style of ticks is so lame (for whatever your reason is), then why would you care what the folks who want the feature do? Why do you care so much about what others are doing if you are so certain your way is the right way?

Can anyone actually show a way in which they would be negatively impacted by this improvement?

Jay Eggleston-

I hear you on the spreadsheet, but it would be more convenient to have everything in one place, route database, tick history, mapping features, blah blah, blah. In my opinion, when MP went full-scale on trying to monetize all of its user-generated content; it put itself in a position of trying to serve the desires of its users in order to keep them coming back and keep them generating content.

Mikey Seaman · · Boise, ID · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 5

James, good point. I suppose my point is to, A. Call out what I see to be a thinly veiled humblebrag and B. Discourage that kind of behavior and antics in the climbing community.

How are we negatively impacted? Oh not so hurt, but i suppose the people who share my view are trying to protect their own sanity at the crag, and within the sport. Sure, there will always be a wide variety of personalities, ad not very one will share my view. This is part of what makes a rich and diverse climbing community.

If the OP wants to benefit himself and track his progress, he has some options, as has been suggested with journals, or in my opinion, with keeping it all in his brain. I think changing the site to add what I consider to be a Dick Length Chart might encourage others to use it and think that way. Newbies might think, well if they want to know if I red-pointed or whatever, than that's what people want to know. This is what climbing must be about. This is what I should talk about, this is how I should behave.

My post is half legit concern and opposition to the view, and half busting this OP's balls for what I see differently. This is, afterall, the internet. I stand by my post that the OP is a possible chode for wanting all to see his pink point.

James Schroeder · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined May 2002 · Points: 3,166

Maurice,

I agree with you in some respect. First, climbing should be about fun and not about grade chasing, per se. I don't think the OP is looking for his ascents to be bandied about on the front page, but accessible for him, and perhaps anyone else who might care about his self-reported ticks (I tend to climb with a lot of out-of-towners when they visit and post here looking for partners - I use their tick list, if it's available, to do a tentative, partial vetting and get a rough idea what I'm getting into).

All he's asking for is 8a, without the scorecard, and it sounds like you ignore 8a, and you'd be largely able to ignore it here. Used "correctly" adding a style field to the tick database will be useful for some, and hopefully ignored by others.

I also agree that there are alternatives (8a, a journal, a spreadsheet, etc.), but it's nice to have everything in one place. I have an 8a profile, despite the fact that I have nothing to spray about, and I use features like the pyramid, and even (gasp!) the annual scorecard as a shorthand way to compare my year-over-year performance. Here on MP I use the pitch count on my ticks page to track yearly and monthly volume. I'm admittedly a little OCD (wanna know my AM weight and AM resting heart rate the last time I worked on my long-term project?), but having one place where all this data is available would make my life easier. You're probably laughing at my process, and that's fine, but it's how I've been doing things now that I'm a full-blown adult with limited climbing time. I want to get the most out of my training and climbing, and analyzing the data helps me do that (maybe it's just a placebo effect, but it keeps me thinking about climbing).

I'd even be psyched just to have sortable user-defined fields on the tick database that only I can see. It would get the job done for me, and all of the purists out there could simply click "tick" and be done - although I think it's a slippery slope from "tick" to "redpoint" once you start clicking :-)

Cheers,
James

Mikey Seaman · · Boise, ID · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 5

James,
You're right - I don't know what 8a is. But it's at least fairly popular and seems to lend the OP some credibility, it sounds.

I like your point about the data and clicks being available only to you. That would take care of the humblebrag I've been complaining about. I don't write down anything about when or what I climb. Your process does t make me laugh, but it makes me worry. I'm married with a young daughter and have been climbing less over the years. I don't want to maximize my training potential, for fear of climbing less or having less fun while I focus on training. So perhaps i "should" be more focused on training to continue to climb at as high a level as possible. There's personal preference involved in training, climbing, and using this site. Your points are valid but i still can't resist derailing this thread slightly to call out the OP for being a chode. Hey OP, I'll be in Denver over the next few weekends for work. If you want to find me, track down Peyton Manning and have a bloodhound smell his pink point. The dog will take you to the gas station bathroom where i brushed my teeth an rinsed my mouth out. With any luck, I'll be nearby and we can hash this out like men.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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