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By Eric D
From Gnarnia
Apr 26, 2013
Born again on the last move of the Red Dihedral, high Sierras.

Wannabe wrote:
Maybe all you want to be is outraged or just scoff at him but what does that accomplish?


It provides great entertainment and lets people know that this sport has consequences. Hopefully they see these threads and realize it's time to get it together.


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By Rob Warden, Space Lizard
From Springdale Ut
Apr 26, 2013
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can someone find a non private version of the vid...I am late to the flame war


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By Alex McIntyre
From Tucson, AZ
Apr 26, 2013

To the folks insisting she's using an ATC: look at ANY of the photos of him on the ground looking at the belayer. It is quite obvious she was using a gold Grigri 2. She has an ATC on her harness, but what she is using to belay is very clearly a Grigri.

EDIT: Looks like I'm wrong. Disregard!


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By EDGE
From Boulder, CO
Apr 26, 2013
Puffin, Newfoundland, Canada

Rob Warden, Space Lizard wrote:
can someone find a non private version of the vid...I am late to the flame war

Find the chossiest pile of mud-posing-as-rock as you can locate, then shake your head violently side to side for ten minutes. After about a minute and a half, throw your body into the ground, then stand up and continue. In your periphery, wave your hands like a teenager fumbling with his first bra strap in a darkened movie theater. That's a fair recreation of the vid.

Bonus points if you stop for a quick moment and look at a blond before resuming the head shaking/hand spasming.


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By cjon3s
From Sterling, VA
Apr 26, 2013
Hanging at Seneca

Alex McIntyre wrote:
To the folks insisting she's using an ATC: look at ANY of the photos of him on the ground looking at the belayer. It is quite obvious she was using a gold Grigri 2. She has an ATC on her harness, but what she is using to belay is very clearly a Grigri.


Is it possible he was runout enough to deck? Or did she really drop him?


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By Caprinae monkey
Apr 26, 2013

Alex McIntyre wrote:
To the folks insisting she's using an ATC: look at ANY of the photos of him on the ground looking at the belayer. It is quite obvious she was using a gold Grigri 2. She has an ATC on her harness, but what she is using to belay is very clearly a Grigri.



That's an ATC. From that angle, standing to the left of her you would be able to see the black lever if it were a gri-gri. Instead, I see 2 channels such as the one on ATCs for belaying 2 climbers. While there is a gold gri-gri, there is also a gold ATC.

I don't know why everyone is ragging on the climber who hit the ground instead of the belayer who, not only was incompetant enough to let her climber deck, but also doesn't seem to give a rat's ass.



From the left, you would be able to see at least some of the black lever and other black piece, even if the front (brake rope side) is slightly turned towards the camera.



Example of a gold colored ATC. It's not only the gri-gri 2 which comes in gold.


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By Colin Parker
Administrator
From Idyllwild, CA
Apr 27, 2013
Bouldering in Joshua Tree

I don't think the fact that things like this are happening out there is news to anyone. I applaud the people who offer to share their knowledge and help others. We all start with ignorance, some of us more than others; nobody deserves to die or get hurt doing something they love.


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By Clifton Santiago
Apr 27, 2013

Colin Parker wrote:
I don't think the fact that things like this are happening out there is news to anyone. I applaud the people who offer to share their knowledge and help others. We all start with ignorance, some of us more than others; nobody deserves to die or get hurt doing something they love.


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By AnthonyM
Apr 27, 2013
Maroon Bells-Bell Cord Couloir

Perhaps we should request the video to be made public again for research purposes...

He mentioned on his youtube-facebook that he was now officially a paid climber... who were is sponsors??? Are they still sponsoring him (after that video?)


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By Alex McIntyre
From Tucson, AZ
Apr 27, 2013

Caprinae monkey wrote:
That's an ATC. From that angle, standing to the left of her you would be able to see the black lever if it were a gri-gri. Instead, I see 2 channels such as the one on ATCs for belaying 2 climbers. While there is a gold gri-gri, there is also a gold ATC. I don't know why everyone is ragging on the climber who hit the ground instead of the belayer who, not only was incompetant enough to let her climber deck, but also doesn't seem to give a rat's ass. From the left, you would be able to see at least some of the black lever and other black piece, even if the front (brake rope side) is slightly turned towards the camera. Example of a gold colored ATC. It's not only the gri-gri 2 which comes in gold.

Well, shit. I had no idea there were gold ATC's. I stand corrected.


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By Top Rope Hero
From Was Estes Park, now homeless
Apr 27, 2013
WHAT THE HELL IS HE BELAYING WITH!?!

BWWWAA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Dude pulled his vids. Classic. Nothing like harsh public judgment to burn your ego.

Well? Live and learn--or so we can all hope. Still, we've all seen shenanigans before. Probably nowhere worse for that than the infamous Ton Sai. Climbing paradise? Or maim factory?

Y'know? I smell a good 'general discussion' topic coming on....!!!


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By SendaGorilla
From Boulder
Apr 27, 2013

Caprinae monkey wrote:
don't know why everyone is ragging on the climber who hit the ground instead of the belayer who, not only was incompetant enough to let her climber deck, but also doesn't seem to give a rat's ass.

Because she is a fuckin mega-noob who doesn't have a clue!
It's Always the responsibility of the "experienced" climber to give AT LEAST a little bit of instruction before handing over the ATC.
I mean, the dude has 14 YEARS of experience!!! He can't give her a damn belay lesson?!! And furthermore, he repeated several times to her, "Oh don't worry about, you're doing GREAT!"--emphasizing the GREAT.
If some dude who claimed to be a golfer for 14 years told me my drive swing was "FANTASTIC!!" ... I'd believe him. Prolly put some trust in his leadership too!
Only difference is, u can't DIE while driving golf balls!


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 27, 2013
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"Only difference is, u can't DIE while driving golf balls!"



Give it a few seconds to think about your post above to see that you are INCORRECT.

;-)


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By Caprinae monkey
Apr 28, 2013

Alex, I didn't know there were gold ATCs either and totally missed it in the now defunct vids, only visible in the stills

SendaGorilla, very true, he is idiotic for trying to impress a pretty girl instead of finding a competent partner. I guess if he doesn't value his life, how could she?

And, I think he should keep the vids up. Regardless of positive or negative attention they were about to go viral, it shows his ability to take a beating & his guts to bounce right back, and his super-nice temperament.


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By bearbreeder
Apr 28, 2013

Caprinae monkey wrote:
A he is idiotic for trying to impress a pretty girl instead of finding a competent partner..


every straight red blooded male climber who doesnt have erectile disfunction has done this at least once in their climbing careers ...

they just dont admit it on the intrawebs ;)


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By Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Apr 28, 2013
Cleo's Needle

bearbreeder wrote:
every straight red blooded male climber who doesnt have erectile disfunction has done this at least once in their climbing careers ... they just dont admit it on the intrawebs ;)


I haven't but my wife can catch a fall.



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