3 aiders question

In my limited aid experience, I'm liking using 3 aiders. So far have used 2 with daisies, and one without. The 3rd is then dropable, but less cluster.

What's the word on the street (wall)?

I also like the three aider method. After a bit of experimentation, here is what works best for me:

I have two full length aiders and one short aider (with all but three steps cut off). None are permanently attached to daisies. I also have two adjustable daisies on my harness. I also have a fifi.

For a large number of placements I just use one full length aider: clip in, hold on and bounce, climb up, fifi, clip rope in, repeat.

If the piece is dicey or awkward to test I clip in a daisy while testing. (I usually leave it full extended, to save time).

If I am standing around for a while, or it is awkward to climb up one ladder, I clip the short ladder in, (climbing the bottom two steps on one ladder is rarely an issue). So I can stand with both feet while placing the next piece.

If it is really awkward I tighten the daisy as I move up.

If I'm doing two awkward placements in a row I end up using both daises.

This method works well for me. Mainly it is decreasing the cluster. On most placements you end up dealing with just one free ladder (very clean). For more complicated stuff I end up only adding the amount of complexity I need. This way works much faster for me. When i had The two long ladders on daisies there was a constant tangle, taking maybe 20 seconds per placement? That time really adds up in the long run. Just don't drop anything.

In my limited aid experience, I've used 2 and three daisies with the third being unleashed.

I've found that I like the simplicity of two. If I need double steps because the placement is awkward, I clip the other daisy into the oval on the piece, stand up to place, reach down and clean to second step, and keep going.

I'm sure that on more tenuous aid, there is need for a third, but, for my gumby needs, the doubling up to make the next placement and then moving the one up seems to work the best.

While I occasionally use 3 aiders I've found 2 to be nearly as affective.

Instead of clipping in the 3rd "floater" I just clip the second the same way.
This is slightly an issue when testing on hardness....but hasn't seamed to be to big of a deal....it's a breif inconvience Vs. alot less cluster overall.

josh