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By Tom-onator
From This Galaxy
Jan 31, 2014
Tom-onator

Dancing Doug Pederson SwollenProstrateSwamp wrote:
Teams in the Stoner Bowl XLVIII will be awarded copies of "The Stone" For medicinal purposes of course

Doug!
I miss you when you don't write.
We had a total if about 6" of snow at the house over the last couple of storms. Was that your doings? You missed the mark a little bit but I'm grateful for the moisture.


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By Doug Pederson SpectateSwamp
Jan 31, 2014
In 1993 I ran for election in the YellowHead riding. I painted my head yellow. see "yellowhead speaks 1993" for the youtube video

I appreciate the feedback. It has honed my marijuana / ToKin Stone story.

forum.grasscity.com/general/1279362-teams-stoner-bowl-xlviii>>>

I like this forum it does a slide show of my media from over the years.

For anybody that is worried that I may be giving Stoners a bad name. I challenge them to produce any computer techie that can match my #1 and #2 computer programs of all time. Bring your friends forward and I'll put them in their place as far as "sharing knowledge" with computers. Nope they won't hold a candle to ole Spectate


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By David Sahalie
From on the road again
Feb 3, 2014

'You can give "pets" or "friends" a nose toke with the stone. Great for medical patients or calming wild beasts'

Have you considered a reality TV show? I'm seeing a whole new cannibis entertainment industry. My people will contact your people.


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By Zappatista
Feb 4, 2014
Book me, officer.

Doug Pederson SpectateSwamp wrote:
For anybody that is worried that I may be giving Stoners a bad name. I challenge them to produce any computer techie that can match my #1 and #2 computer programs of all time. Bring your friends forward and I'll put them in their place as far as "sharing knowledge" with computers. Nope they won't hold a candle to ole Spectate


Trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooollllll.

Doug, you don't have any interest in climbing at all, I surmise.


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By Ronin
From Smoke Hole Canyon
Feb 6, 2014
Almost Heaven nothing... this IS Heaven.  Climbing parallel to my young friend Andreas on a perfect fall day.

A picture is worth a thousand words.
A picture is worth a thousand words.


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Feb 6, 2014
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I seriously doubt that putting any form of weed oil on that babies pacifier cured it's cancer.


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By LLubchenco
From GWS, CO
Feb 6, 2014

I see I'm a little late on joining into this discussion, but I will just say that the book "Smoke Signals" chronicles the history of weed, both culturally and medicinally very well and provides huge amount of research that has happened over the last 100 years that can be hard to find online. Much of it has been done in other countries, but is nonetheless useful and certainly crazy! There are documented cases of injections of cannabis extracts being put into tumors and having them degrade from the inside out! Just saying, that is a good source if anybody is interested. Climb hard take chances!


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By iceman777
From Colorado Springs
Feb 6, 2014
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Yea I'd like to see ya tame/ calm wild beasts with a nose hit

Why don't you start with a silverback gorilla .

Now that would make for some fine entertainment , watching you get ur head ripped off
Hell if it was on pay per view I'd spend the cash. Or just do a u tube vid with a go pro
It would prolly go viral !

C'mon do it !

It would beat the crap out of this 8 pages of drivel.


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Feb 6, 2014
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

LLubchenco wrote:
There are documented cases of injections of cannabis extracts being put into tumors and having them degrade from the inside out!

Reference please, or it didn't happen, at least not in a medically applicable way.
I mean, I can extract a cancer tumor, and inject 1m H2SO4 and it will also degrade from the inside. I bet ammonia would work too... but it doesn't mean I just found a cure for cancer.

Ronin- same. I'd like to read the doctors account of this, since I can make a poster too - but writing something down does not make it true.

I had a relative who said prayers every night. Her cancer went away too. Perhaps both cures contain elements of faith.
I'm no straight edge, but I don't call it nutrition or claim my indulgences cure cancer.


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By LLubchenco
From GWS, CO
Feb 6, 2014

Tony, It's in the book. I don't have the book anymore because, like the rest of my library, I gave it away. I just suggested it as something that you and everyone else here might like to read. Enjoy!


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Feb 6, 2014
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Posting total bullshit is doing more harm than good to the purpose of legalizing weed.



EDTIED:

"It's in the book.".

Oh, that changes everything.

Has to be true then.

;-)


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By Tom-onator
From This Galaxy
Feb 6, 2014
Tom-onator

Locker wrote:
Posting total bullshit is doing more harm than good to the purpose of legalizing weed. EDTIED: "It's in the book.". Oh, then that changes everything. Has to be true then. ;-)

Legalizing weed has done more harm to the purpose of legalizing weed than even Dancing Doug's tips on how to smoke in the shower with your pet.
Remember $25 quarters and $60 ounces?
Happier days my friends, happier days...


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By Mike McKinnon
From Golden, CO
Feb 6, 2014
Bunny pancake

Tom-o Sapien wrote:
Legalizing weed has done more harm to the purpose of legalizing weed than even Dancing Doug's tips on how to smoke in the shower with your pet. Remember $25 ounces and $60 quarters? Happier days my friends, happier days...


Wow ounces less than quarters?!?!

Where do you buy from?


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By David Sahalie
From on the road again
Feb 6, 2014

Locker wrote:
I seriously doubt that putting any form of weed oil on that babies pacifier cured it's cancer.


Gutpa is about as middle Merika as it gets:



thought provoking in any case... CBDs are just the tip of the medical iceberg. If the Feds get off their butts and declassify it from Sch 1, CBC, CBN, CGBs all show medicinal potential.


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Feb 6, 2014
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

LLubchenco wrote:
Tony, It's in the book. I don't have the book anymore because, like the rest of my library, I gave it away. I just suggested it as something that you and everyone else here might like to read. Enjoy!


Yer drinkin' the koolaid...
Refer to page 3:

Tony B wrote:
Q2: "How can it cure cancer if it is a toxin?" - Easy, it can't cure cancer, and that's a silly question anyway, since "toxin" is a BS jargain term these days. The question is about toxic concentrations, not toxins. Vitamin A is carcinogenic if ingested in high enough doses, and people who drink too much water die of hyponatremia. As for pot, The LD 50 is most probably > 40 mg/kg of body mass... I wouldn't worry too much about smoking enough to die of it, but I am establishing that it indeed has a toxicity. Furhtermore, the logic behind the question is BS if the language isn't. Wwhat do you think Chemotherapy is? They poison the body (with "toxins") to kill the fastest growing cells (cancer) in many of the practices. It used to be done with mustard gas, and successfully so! Toxic stuff kills cancer cells too. So that you know, there has only been one published clinical trial testing whether cannabinoids can treat cancer in patients, led by Spanish Dr Manuel Guzman. Nine people with glioblastoma multiforme – (a cancerous brain tumor) – were given highly purified THC through a tube and injected directly into their brain tumor. Eight people showed some response to the treatment. One didn’t. All of the patients died within a year. Cured? No. Not quite. Try "died" instead. ... OK, so smoke it if you got it. I got no problem with that. But the psuedo-junk-science stoned-bullshit-talk doesn't fly, OK? And now we return you to your regularly scheduled program - I've been pro-choice on everything since 1990 (voting age for me). But I'm also anti-bullshit.


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By Tom-onator
From This Galaxy
Feb 6, 2014
Tom-onator

Oops. Fixed that Mike thanks.
Goin rate these days (local basement dude) is $40 for an eighth, and that isn't top shelf.
Outfuckinrageous


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Feb 6, 2014
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I am aware of the weed vs. cancer and the new thinking in that area.

My comment was about the baby, pacifier, weed oil of some sort, and being CURED from cancer.

I'm calling BS on that one.







"Remember $25 quarters"

Am I that much older than you?

I remember $10.00 oz's of total bunk ("Seed weed") and $25.00 oz's for the good shit.


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Feb 6, 2014
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Fucking A right on the mark!

"CBDs are just the tip of the medical iceberg. If the Feds get off their butts and declassify it from Sch 1, CBC, CBN, CGBs all show medicinal potential."


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By Kevinmurray
Feb 6, 2014

And $100.00 pounds


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By MC Poopypants
Feb 6, 2014
Dropping a deuce

There are few people on here getting a little re-active to some ideas they don't agree with. If you are getting upset by this you are identified with your thoughts and lacking a deeper presence.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss more profound medical effects of the ganj. For anyone who's feeling threatened by this idea keep in mind that you are probably getting your information from a profit oriented, misguided system that treats symptoms not causes. They have no interest in a cure that anyone can produce. I believe that there are many ways to deal with cancer outside of the American medical-industrial complex's established thinking. Isn't the 3rd leading cause of death hospital visits?

Remember, everything you know is wrong.


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By s.price
From PS,CO
Feb 6, 2014
 Morning Dew ,self portrait

Tony B wrote:
Am I the only one who remembers when people just gave it to you if you wanted some?

So many people growing around here now I can get free herb with a phone call or two. Supply has quickly outpaced demand in these parts.


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Feb 6, 2014
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

MC Poopypants,

First off:

MC Poopypants wrote:
Isn't the 3rd leading cause of death hospital visits? Remember, everything you know is wrong.

A) No, it is not.
B) Yes, what you said is wrong.
www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm
Unless you can "catch" cancer, diabetes, car accidents, stroke, alzheimers, or suicide in a hostpital, then things caught in a hospital would have to be about 1/3 of all illnesses to even make the top 10.

As for the conspiracy theory stuff:
You posit that the universities/professors offering classes right now are in it for the profit and the people shucking weed and stones to smoke it out of are not?!?!?
That's a friggin weird thought. How did you get there?

I'm OK with 'opinions' and 'thoughts,' we are all entitled to our own and lord knows I have more than my fair share. But when someone comes up with their own 'facts' that I call bullshit. It is a logical operation that the party making a claim must back it up, not that the skeptic must prove otherwise. Otherwise, I got 7 virgins waiting on me on the bright side in the 7th heaven when I die, and we all know it. I'll admit it, I never did like faith-healers. Fuckers suck the life out of people... FOR A PROFIT.

There is no doubt that there are several medically useful applications of MJ. I'd certainly try it as an antiemetic (FYI: Ginger root is also a 5-HT3 Antagonist) or as an analgesic (synthetic[*1] CB1- and CB2- receptor agonist efficacy have been found comparable with morphine for murine tumor pain models). Yeah, 15-17k Americans die every year from opioid overdoses, most of those while trying to stop withdrawal symptoms due to addiction.
There are also some emerging and potential (primarily psychiatric) medical uses for X, 'Shrooms and LSD. Not to mention Ketamine (who'da thought? - an antidepressant with no therapeutic lag for treatment resistant cases?!?!?)
I got friends/coworkers that have been doing clinical (legit) research on that stuff for years. I've been studying it/following it for a while and some of it has wrapped up pretty nicely. Google Psilocybin and 'Danforth' or 'Grob' if you want specifics on some of the studies. Alicia just finished her PHD in that lane a few years ago with Charlie as the supervisory MD.

But as far as this MJ-curing-cancer thing, it's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble, it's the stuff you know that just ain't so. Is MJ the new "positive thinking" or "prayer" placebo?
Does eating a grapefruit every day burn fat? Will pasta make you skinny? Atkins diet anyone? Fusion in a flask?

I'm not saying that there is not some interesting work being done, nor denying evidence that there may be a future use there, and there certainly is a theoretical pathway for how certain elements within it may be of some use in some treatments. But as of now, weed does not cure cancer. Let the research continue, but don't bet lives on the results.

[*1] Not because big pharma wants it synthetic, but because it is fairly 'pure' and not an unknown mish-mash of things without control, about 60 potentially physiologically active elements. You can't control the study that way.


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Feb 8, 2014
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"Am I the only one who remembers when people just gave it to you if you wanted some?"

Never to the best of my dope knowledge, was it a common thing to give it away.

Late 60's early 70's and no, I do not recall it being given away. Don't recall it being given away in the 80's or 90's either.

However, that may well change, now.


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By Old and Busted
From Centennial, CO
Feb 8, 2014
Stabby

Back in the day the free weed formula usually involved large, firm breasts


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Feb 8, 2014
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"I was the "climbing consultant" who ran all the trips, did all the instruction, and coached for competitions."


Had you not added that part ^^^ , I was going to ask if by chance you had large, firm, breasts.


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