1st set of cams
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Im thinking Totem Basic Cam or DMM Dragons. |
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One of things you might consider is: What cams are on your partners racks. |
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BD Camalots are the workhorse of any rack and a set of those is what anyone should start with. Then you can build on that with some specialty pieces in the smaller sizes, like the flexible-stem Totem cams you are looking at. |
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I agree with Scott. Heck I even get uncomfortable when they don't have a color matched neutrino on the cam lol. The best thing to do is ask your partners what they don't have and go with that. For example, if they don't have a #4 camalot or they want an extra #3 for a climb. And not to sound like a broken record but camalots are always a safe bet. |
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I know a Frech guy selling tons of Metolius Power cams used. You could build most of your rack out of that. Good prices, too. $10 - $15 a piece. |
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I seen the hole bd cams thing coming.. not saying bd sucks but im the guy that dont like doing the same thing as every one else |
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I think the dragons are a horrible, overpriced rip off of BD cams. On sale you are still usually paying $65/cam, vs. BD is about $45. The BD cams are much nicer to place with their thumb loops, and the "extendable" sling on the dragons is next to useless. About the only thing I like about the dragons is that they use the same color scheme. |
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If you want to be different, dig up an old set of Trango Max Cams, nobody will have those. |
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HB Quadcams |
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Any one use totems? |
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Why do you even ask bud? Get your totems and climb! |
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Lol best advice of the week.. |
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About a year ago i bought a bunch of the old WC Tech Friends to fill out my IC rack. Having used BD almost exclusively (I have tried and liked Wired Bliss also), I was really impressed with WCs product. My double set of BD C4s is my standard rack. However, when I am climbing stuff that needs more than 2 cams of the same size, I really like my WC Tech Friends. |
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well if you want to be the different guy stay away from the totems as everybody has and loves aliens... they have more of a cult like following than the C4 |
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Get metolious and helium friends. I like my rack. It is what I learned/am learning on. Although I still go for a nut or a tricam every time I need pro NOW. |
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I like master cams for smaller stuff then bd from .5 up. i feel that bds are the standard for a good reason. i dont know of other mid to large cams that are clearly better than c4s. getting something different just to be different is okay i guess. get some hexes and try to get them in instead of a cams when u can. dont see a lot of that going on. |
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Dragons are awesome, they're my favorite piece of gear that I own. |
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I have doubles of BD, which I learned on, then got doubles of metolious ultralight power cam to buff out the rack for the creek. Used both separately a bunch to learn the sizes and ended up loving metolious. Way lighter. Great deals on line, gearx, e-omc, etc. Bomber. Just like them I guess. But it is true that partners will all want BD, all the time. I'm like the op, in that this makes me like the metolious rack even more. Not much challenge sorting gear usually! But I sure as shit wouldn't get a whole totem rack. |
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Whatever you get, make sure you have a yellow Metolious and pink Tricam. They always get used. |
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I started with metolius power cams since they were in my price range. Great cam, light, low cost and uber durable. |