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Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480
Ray Pinpillage wrote: Just because some self-loathing Canadian with poor grammar is desperate to be right doesn't mean I'm obligated to his demands. This is germane to my post on the last page; BB speaks in absolutes and then throws temper tantrums when he's contradicted.
There's the answer. I did have to look up germane though..

Fair enough but I'm surprised anyone would take his rants seriously. My guess is that's why many here wish BB would return.
Michael C · · New Jersey · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 340

Duh, you guys...it's bear breeding season! He's in the rut. He'll be back.

eli poss · · Durango, CO · Joined May 2014 · Points: 525
Ray Pinpillage wrote:BB speaks in absolutes and then throws temper tantrums when he's contradicted.
only a sith deals in absolutes
Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
eli poss wrote: only a sith deals in absolutes
Isn't that an absolutist statement?
eli poss · · Durango, CO · Joined May 2014 · Points: 525
Marc801 wrote: Isn't that an absolutist statement?
shhhh...
Brie Abram · · Celo, NC · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 493

do or do not; there is no try

Lucas is an idiot. #stillbitter

Old lady H · · Boise, ID · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 1,374
Michael Schneider wrote: No, I'm as happily married to the same girl for 20 years as a father of to teenagers can be. I am trying to give you a hint without coming out and saying; Back in the day we learned to down climb in mountain boots (or something like them.) Very stiff shoes will teach you economize your foot and keep your wiggly-piggies happy. The modern slip-lasted shoes smidge a mix of edging & smearing. ( not speaking about the down turned foot vices.) smedging is a great technique, but when you learn to 'front point' on nubbins, You gain an understanding for the need for older tootsies to have support. Also without that background (I've noticed that paddling) that today's newer climbers do in slippers, leads to running through the rubber. They are a product of planned obsolescence, and another example of the successful monitazation of climbing. All that to point out that I have many pairs of smaller shoes all in good condition kept stuffed to preserve their shape. 0ne or two pairs of size 38s & 38.5 Scarpa shoes that were barley used before I switched to the slipper style shoe. A switch that was fine with the background I discribed. For why ? This post? My dog barks at owls 3:50 am! B^{[
So, I "climb" once a week at the college gym here, which means I belay, climb some and also fall off for people taking belay tests. "Unexpected fall" for test is definitely in my skill set.

I'm also a setter, which is it's own sort of workout.

And, get outside when someone is kind enough to haul me along. Lots of belays, some climbing.

Setting, I wear whatever I have on. Sometimes, that's also how I expect the climbing to work, too. College gym, there are absolute newbs, I set the easiest routes, and I want those newbs to have that same grin this sport gave me. It's been fun to try and come up with good routes that show people a technique, that can still be climbed by anyone.

Outside, and if I'm actually trying to work a little harder inside, I have the first pair of shoes I was gifted, Scarpa helix women's 36/US 5 1/2. Everyone said tight, and they are, but I would just as soon go with unsquished toes. I also have wide feet and high arches, and these were the only ones I could make work. I recently bought a pair of used shoes of unknown pedigree, but they're not very comfortable. They're just extra to grab if I'm setting, instead of grabbing the climbing pack with the real shoes.

That's it. One real pair, one faux. Works fine, with my abilities.

Best, Helen

P.s., cats are quieter. Usually. Glad you have owls, though. We've had a little screech owl again this summer, almost in the back yard.
M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Old lady H wrote: So, I "climb" once a week at the college gym here, which means I belay, climb some and also fall off for people taking belay tests. "Unexpected fall" for test is definitely in my skill set. I'm also a setter, which is it's own sort of workout. And, get outside when someone is kind enough to haul me along. Lots of belays, some climbing. Setting, I wear whatever I have on. Sometimes, that's also how I expect the climbing to work, too. College gym, there are absolute newbs, I set the easiest routes, and I want those newbs to have that same grin this sport gave me. It's been fun to try and come up with good routes that show people a technique, that can still be climbed by anyone. Outside, and if I'm actually trying to work a little harder inside, I have the first pair of shoes I was gifted, Scarpa helix women's 36/US 5 1/2. Everyone said tight, and they are, but I would just as soon go with unsquished toes. I also have wide feet and high arches, and these were the only ones I could make work. I recently bought a pair of used shoes of unknown pedigree, but they're not very comfortable. They're just extra to grab if I'm setting, instead of grabbing the climbing pack with the real shoes. That's it. One real pair, one faux. Works fine, with my abilities. Best, Helen P.s., cats are quieter. Usually. Glad you have owls, though. We've had a little screech owl again this summer, almost in the back yard.
pictures or it didnt happen
teece303 · · Highlands Ranch, CO · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 596

You know... I will miss bearbreeder and his ;)

He could be a jerk. So can I! So can you.

But he really would go the extra mile when trying to explain something. More than once, he posted a pic on a topic I assumed I understood very well. And he taught me something new!

That's what forums like this are about!

That said: I find that when my life is going the very best, I just don't have time for MP. Hopefully something like that happened.

Old lady H · · Boise, ID · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 1,374
T Roper wrote: pictures or it didnt happen
Or what didn't happen??

;)
teece303 · · Highlands Ranch, CO · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 596

Also: the newb paradox.

It's really easy to ignore, or worse, troll the newb that asks the question that has been asked a million times.

But guess what? You are an asshole if you do that. A (very) minor asshole if you ignore. A MAJOR asshole if you troll.

And bearbreeder could walk the line, but... he would engage newbs!

And forums like this are just about completely useless if they can't bring new people into the fold.

Remember that the next time you are a prick to a newbie.

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911

Learning to rock climb on the interwebz is a poor decision IMO, learning climbing on the interwebz from a n00b is even worse.

teece303 · · Highlands Ranch, CO · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 596

So... learning to climb from others stupid...

Assholes. All around...

Also, learning to climb from any other human, in person, in book form, or on the inter-tubes is incredibly weak!

We were all born knowing how to climb!

(Do you realize how stupid you sound now? Of course not...)

Russ Keane · · Salt Lake · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 392

Wait, that Asian selfie pic is Bearbreeder?? And he got kicked off for being a jerk? I am so confused. I thought he was a nice older guy who has climbed for 40 years.

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
teece303 wrote:So... learning to climb from others stupid... Assholes. All around... Also, learning to climb from any other human, in person, in book form, or on the inter-tubes is incredibly weak! We were all born knowing how to climb! (Do you realize how stupid you sound now? Of course not...)
Learning to climb from anonymous people on the internet who haven't been climbing for very long could be a bad idea. Its not even close to hands on experience or learning from a book written by an expert. Anyone who has been climbing for 10 or more years would probably agree.
mattm · · TX · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 1,885
T Roper wrote: Learning to climb from anonymous people on the internet who haven't been climbing for very long could be a bad idea. Its not even close to hands on experience or learning from a book written by an expert. Anyone who has been climbing for 10 or more years would probably agree.
Depends on who you listen to online. There are a handful of very knowledgeable people with a lot of good info that can supplement "Book Learning".

100% agree though, most newer climbers should invents the $15 on a how to book and AT LEAST get some basics down before wandering onto the web...
Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480
T Roper wrote: Learning to climb from anonymous people on the internet who haven't been climbing for very long could be a bad idea. Its not even close to hands on experience or learning from a book written by an expert. Anyone who has been climbing for 10 or more years would probably agree.
I think the point trying to made is you can learn stuff from Mountain Project. Whether it's the basics or the next fancy belay device or ice screw you learn stuff. Not everyone that comes here does so just to talk shit and generate Memes.
M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Bill Kirby wrote: I think the point trying to made is you can learn stuff from Mountain Project. Whether it's the basics or the next fancy belay device or ice screw you learn stuff. Not everyone that comes here does so just to talk shit and generate Memes.
It all comes down to the delivery of the message for sure. A delivery from a trusted old crusty who has been there and done that is one thing and a delivery from a relatively new but semi experienced climber who can never be wrong is another.
Khoi · · Vancouver, BC · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 45
Russ Keane wrote:Wait, that Asian selfie pic is Bearbreeder?? And he got kicked off for being a jerk? I am so confused. I thought he was a nice older guy who has climbed for 40 years.
He hasn't even been climbing for 10 years.

But he has been able to get a triple-digit number of climbing days in a year.....
aikibujin · · Castle Rock, CO · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 300
T Roper wrote: I can see the jiggling now on BPL. You dont even backpack light do you?
BPL: a bunch of guys sitting in front of a computer, debating endlessly on how to cut an ounce off their packs, when they can loose a lot more around their waists.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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