Is this an acceptable belay anchor?

Climbinghorst wrote:Because it's completely off-topic.

That's never stopped anyone from anything around here...

Oh my god, Stitch, that was hilarious, how did you know about it?

FourT6and2 wrote:Wait, so I can't climb with my rifle in Switzerland???? I'm training for a new type of biathlon here: climbing + shooting. Didn't you hear? It's a new Olympic sport.

I figure we should start with a more modest evolution of the biathalon first. Instead of XC skiing and rifle shooting, downhill skiing and shotgun shooting. And you don't stop while shooting.

JK- wrote: That's never stopped anyone from anything around here...

Looks like : ))

patto wrote: A munter has better friction than an ATC. There are plenty of reasons why you might prefer a belay device but to refuse to climb with somebody because they preferred a munter... That is just silly.

using a munter and needlessly turning the rope into a rat's nest is just silly... i definitely wouldn't climb with somebody who wanted to use a munter as their primary belay system.

Seth Jones wrote: Can we snowboard instead of ski though?

No. Sorry bro, humans only.

You are going to have a blast there I climb it few years ago,, awsome,,, put up some pics of the place....

Interesting. Why is it common I wonder? Seems unnecessary and frugal to the point of handicap to me. ATCs don't weigh or cost much :D

slim wrote: using a munter and needlessly turning the rope into a rat's nest is just silly... i definitely wouldn't climb with somebody who wanted to use a munter as their primary belay system.

The question is would anyone with the skills to belay with a Munter properly without getting a rat´s nest, with the knowledge to decide whether old or new techiniques are appropriate and the intellectual flexibility to adapt to unfamiliar ideas would actually want to climb with you:-)

Jim Titt wrote: The question is would anyone with the skills to belay with a Munter properly without getting a rat´s nest, with the knowledge to decide whether old or new techiniques are appropriate and the intellectual flexibility to adapt to unfamiliar ideas would actually want to climb with you:-)

I climbed with a dude from Germany who had business in Saratogia Springs NY. He used a Munter to bring me up a pitch. It was the bees knees to learn that the Munter is solid to belay and rap with. I practice periodically to keep moving after I drop my Pivot. It doesn't tangle up if you let the rope do its thing. It does however make of good conversation. Never I won't climb with you again haha..

Walter Galli wrote:You are going to have a blast there I climb it few years ago,, awsome,,, put up some pics of the place....

Any idea how many draws I will need and what length rope I'll need? I have a 60m and a 70. But It'd be nice to save space in my luggage with a shorter rope.

Man... Are you planning to take ropes with you in the luggage? put in another 60 m remember is a 500 ft wall if you like to get to the top, but you can switch the rope at the belay anchor and continue with the same rope, is a clear explanation?

Walter Galli wrote:Man... Are you planning to take ropes with you in the luggage? put in another 60 m remember is a 500 ft wall if you like to get to the top, but you can switch the rope at the belay anchor and continue with the same rope, is a clear explanation?

Well, yeah... I live in the USA, how else am I supposed to get to Switzerland haha. So yes... I'm bringing all my gear in a suitcase.

As to your explanation, no I don't understand. You'r saying to bring two ropes? I was planning to just stay tied into the same rope the whole time... Me and my partner will never untie.

Yes is ok, I'm always the just In case guy,, you know... But yes a 60 m or 70 m is more than enough...and also you are next door to Italy so check out the Italians alps, there is a lot to climb over the border... And good food , vine and cheese...

My trip is going to look like this: wine, chocolate, cheese, climbing, beer, climbing, cheese.

FourT6and2 wrote:My trip is going to look like this: wine, chocolate, cheese, climbing, beer, climbing, cheese.

I'd miss the beer course, replace with more wine, and/or cheese

Right Chocolate

Well, here in Switzerland...

Can't climb this dam. 1) The restaurant where you get the access key for the ladder at the start is closed. And 2) the road to get up to the dam is apparently closed as well. Don't know why. The weather is fine.

Gonna try to find some other places to climb.

Well, that sucks!

We wound up going to the Melchsee-Frutt ski area in Melchtal Valley. Holy crap! This place is like a freaking painting in a dream in a fantasy. We only had time for a few routes at Bonistock crag. But this crag stretches on for about 3.5 miles of pure rock. The routes are labeled on little metal plaques. And there are hundreds of them. They are about 90 feet, some higher. And we found some 600-foot multipitch in another area but we didn't have time so we stuck to the single pitch stuff.

I'm gonna go back soon. Maybe this spring. And make a week or two of it. This place is climbing heaven.