Leaning to Climb Tradtionally Indoors
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highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion wrote: It's getting your god dammed approach shoes eaten by marmots.Ahahaha. /thread |
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If you can "sight" or "read" a route in the gym before you start climbing with colorful holds, this device will allow you to do the same. The variation in stones allows a setter a range of placements. |
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Hilton Bennett wrote:I wanted a way to learn and be taught how to trad climb in a way I could test the placement without risking death.Ok... do you really think every person who has ever learned to climb trad was risking death? (well, ok yes, in the same way that anyone could be killed by anything every day). There are indeed safe ways to learn to place gear. Any experienced trad climber could teach you. Where are you located? Maybe someone on MP can take you out and teach you to climb... |
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Hilton Bennett wrote: Get excited ya'll!Do I hear "Woot!" |
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Hilton Bennett wrote:And next time I go 3 hours away and someone on mountain project says to bring multiple number 3 cams, a number 5 nut, and various other gear I'll be ready, and climbers who have been training indoors will confidently be ready as well. Get excited ya'll!Just... just bring your whole rack! Clip it on your harness! Climb the rock! Choose the correct gear as you go! How have you invested so much of your own time and money in trad climbing when you seem not to understand how it works at all? Sorry, sorry... I know I'm violating rule #1 here... but my brain is melting. I would say it's all a joke except for the funding site and the video.... Find someone who is experienced at trad climbing. Buy them beer or dinner or gas money or all three. Ask them to teach you to climb. You will gain a whole new perspective on this project, I can almost guarantee it. |
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thats it im going out to buy a treadmill and some large trees to put in my office so i can practice hiking. |
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Testing, |
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Its simple but its my home climbing wall. |
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Em Cos wrote: Just... just bring your whole rack! Clip it on your harness! Climb the rock! Choose the correct gear as you go! How have you invested so much of your own time and money in trad climbing when you seem not to understand how it works at all? Sorry, sorry... I know I'm violating rule #1 here... but my brain is melting. I would say it's all a joke except for the funding site and the video.... Find someone who is experienced at trad climbing. Buy them beer or dinner or gas money or all three. Ask them to teach you to climb. You will gain a whole new perspective on this project, I can almost guarantee it.+1 OP appears clueless about trad climbing... |
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We all see/hear the sometimes disastrous results of people making poor or uniformed attempts at the gym to crag transition. Imagine how much more exciting it will be when you can cut out the sport crag middle-man and go straight to outdoor trad climbing! What about a triple set so you can build a three piece hanging belay? Then you can go from leading 5.9 in the gym straight to Epinephrine, because you crush 5.9! |
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Hilton Bennett wrote:Also to the question about whether I was looking for: 1. They are basically pre-ordering the product - often at a slight discount over what the projected MSRP will be. Sometimes paying a slight premium to be the first to get the product, and/or because they really want the product to come to market. 2. They believe in the product so much and want it to be produced so badly that they are willing to "invest" in the future existence of the product. 3. They are your family and friends and are actually donating to you, not investing in the product. I am definitely looking for 2, 3, and 1.The lowest contribution level that gets you a single unit is $5000... are you saying that this is close to what you project the MSRP will be? |
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Hilton Bennett wrote:Imagine for a second that some guy just wants to be able to get stronger and better at trad climbing and that he wants to be able to share that with others. Ok now you've got me.You can get stronger at climbing by climbing outdoors, and by climbing in the gym. You will really only get better at trad climbing by trad climbing, with or without this device. |
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Hilton Bennett wrote:Imagine for a second that some guy just wants to be able to get stronger and better at trad climbing and that he wants to be able to share that with others. Ok now you've got me.This is where you're losing us. Practicing jamming and building that type of endurance helps trad climbing. Placing cams doesn't. You will never get stronger just by slapping in a bunch of cams in a sea of plastic. Your device teaches people what they can figure out by taking a rack to the scattered rocks on the approach trail. Your device can't teach anyone something that they wouldn't learn in the first 30 minutes of playing around on the ground. It doesn't teach as much as you'd learn in your first 2 trad leads. And Hilton Bennett wrote: And next time I go 3 hours away and someone on mountain project says to bring multiple number 3 cams, a number 5 nut, and various other gear I'll be ready, and climbers who have been training indoors will confidently be ready as well.No, they'll die. |
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Brandon.Phillips wrote:Imagine how much more exciting it will be when you can cut out the sport crag middle-man and go straight to outdoor trad climbing!I'd been climbing 2 years before I tried my first proper sport route. Same with everyone else I learned with. It's not an issue. |
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RockinOut wrote: Who bolts cracks?Eric Sloan... w00t! |
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I use the following link to get mine. Less than $60 and you can get different sizes to stick your cams into |
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Ho man ..... if people want to learn how to climb with gear, indoors, the solution is clear. |
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Chris JD wrote:I use the following link to get mine. Less than $60 and you can get different sizes to stick your cams into Currently 28% off! fleshlight.comsolid gold |
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I think its a good idea. Maybe not to whip on, but for someone who has never even felt a cam before it could help you get the basic idea. |
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grog m wrote:I think its a good idea. Maybe not to whip on, but for someone who has never even felt a cam before it could help you get the basic idea. Keep up the innovation and just realize that you posted in a forum full of a very hateful, angry, bigoted, opinionated group of people. Myself included.Good post, Greg. To the OP, if you can get past the derision here, take the advice to heart and modify your idea as needed. Although most people are telling you to drop the whole idea, I think there could be some benefit to learning cam or nut placements. As long as you offer something other than parallel cracks. Good luck. |