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Andrew Drummond hikes all 4,000 footers in NH in 6 days unsupported...

grog m · · Saltlakecity · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 70

lol @ 4000 footer

come out to the west boys

Stagg54 Taggart · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2006 · Points: 10

to all the controversy:

"Those who can, do. Those who can't, become pundits."

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480
grog m wrote:lol @ 4000 footer come out to the west boys
Lol at you.. Come out west so I can walk up your paved trails? Wow 14K is like so high.
june m · · elmore, vt · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 110

I believe it was Ron kauk(but I may be mistaken) who said that the best climber is the one having the most fun. Besides what would a hiker do when encounteing other hikers, say shut up and get out of my way?its a great accomplishment on a personal level, but does it really matter? Does it help any one or leave the world a better place?

Dylan Pike · · Knoxville, TN · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 488

@Grog: Try doing 48 4,000 footers in 6 days.

mediocre · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 0
Bill Kirby wrote: Lol at you.. Come out west so I can walk up your paved trails? Wow 14K is like so high.
With all due respect Bill, that's CO. There are like 2 real mountains in CO.
ChrisN · · Morro Bay, CA · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 25

@Grog. I've hiked all over the country, including Colorado, Utah, California, and Wyoming.

The hiking in the White Mountains is the hardest, most rugged hiking I have ever encountered.

It's not the elevation that counts, it's the vertical and the ruggedness of the trails.

Hiking all 48 of these peaks in a single go is a proud achievement, regardless of the time or rules.

Ex.
I've run into people from CO up there on multiple occasions training for Alaska trips. It's just not cold or windy enough in CO to adequately test systems etc.

Bill M · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 317

Glad I live out west, schlepping my gear around RMNP and the Winds is about all I can handle.

Corey Herbert · · Baltimore, MD · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 0

I think maybe a closer climbing analogy would be dabbing. Did your beanie touch the leaf? Yeah. Did the leaf help you send? Only you know for sure...

Brendan Blanchard · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 590
Eric Engberg wrote: About the same level of BS as what constitutes on-sight, flash, redpoint, pinkpoint......
Exactly! Because these terms and there definitions have never, ever, in a million years (okay, almost fifteen) of Mountain Project history, EVER been questioned. Right? ;)
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,960
grog m wrote:lol @ 4000 footer come out to the west boys
Dumb dumb... vertical on these mnts is pretty much same as West Coast Mnts... just the starting point is different.
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,960
ChrisN wrote: It's just not cold or windy enough in CO to adequately test systems etc.
Yup... There's a reason that folks train for antarctic expeditions on Mount Washington in NH and not on Pikes Peak in CO.
Russ Keane · · Salt Lake · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 392

"Glad I live out west, schlepping my gear around RMNP and the Winds is about all I can handle."

lol! Love this East Coast--West Coast battle. BIGGIE AND TUPAC YO!!!

No but seriously. Some of you make it seem like you have to bushwack your way up a NH mountain. It's not that rugged, jeez. There's a trail to the top. Sure, if you are talking trail running, maybe all the roots and rocks would be problematic.

But come on...... At higher elevations you can barely breathe. And the weather... the potential for death.... the exposed ridges. 12,000 foot peaks are way harder than 4000.

What this guy did is completely awesome. But stop talking foolishness that 4000 footers are just as rugged as 12,000. The northeast-myopia is pretty staggering at times.

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480
Russ Keane wrote:"Glad I live out west, schlepping my gear around RMNP and the Winds is about all I can handle." lol! Love this East Coast--West Coast battle. BIGGIE AND TUPAC YO!!! No but seriously. Some of you make it seem like you have to bushwack your way up a NH mountain. It's not that rugged, jeez. There's a trail to the top. Sure, if you are talking trail running, maybe all the roots and rocks would be problematic. But come on...... At higher elevations you can barely breathe. And the weather... the potential for death.... the exposed ridges. 12,000 foot peaks are way harder than 4000. What this guy did is completely awesome. But stop talking foolishness that 4000 footers are just as rugged as 12,000. The northeast-myopia is pretty staggering at times.
Do you even climb I mean hike bro?
Russ Keane · · Salt Lake · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 392

I do hike, yes. I have great respect for the White Mountains. Hiking is challenging no matter what.

People are blowing hot air to say that hiking is "harder" in NH. Do you think you walk on a red carpet out west? And in the Whites there are dragons that come out of the ground and bite you as you hike by?

You can nab several 4000'ers at a time. So this notion that you "start low" may be true, but it's not like this guy came down after each peak. Ever done the tripyramids? You can grab three peaks all right next to each other, just little bumps along a mellow ridge. Examples like that are numerous.

And then there's the oxygen difference.... This is a huge factor.

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480

You haven't seen the dragons? I knew you didn't walk around the mountains!

It's not the elevation it's that legal high grade marijuana out west.

Greg Pouliot · · Rumney NH · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 90

Does it really matter whos dick is bigger? I mean, we're all having fun hiking regardless of whether or not were out west or here in awesome NH.

Chris Schmidt · · Fruita, CO · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 0

As a CO resident I always find it hilarious when people brag about how hard they are for "climbing 14ers"

There are a grand total of 6 (out of 58) that are "harder" than 3rd class. As a big shocker to absolutely no one, those 6 are summited the least frequently. Well over half of them are very easy hiking, with a little thin air near the top.

Brian M · · Long Beach, CA · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 155

Awesome , way to get after it

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 974
Chris Schmidt wrote:As a CO resident I always find it hilarious when people brag about how hard they are for "climbing 14ers" There are a grand total of 6 (out of 58) that are "harder" than 3rd class. As a big shocker to absolutely no one, those 6 are summited the least frequently. Well over half of them are very easy hiking, with a little thin air near the top.
I used to be kind of snobbish about 14ers too.
But most of those involved aren't climbers. Many of them could barely be called hikers.
But good for them getting out there and doing it.

Not many of us on MP are soloing the Fitz traverse, or onsighting 8c, or even climbing as much as we'd like.
So maybe we shouldn't be feeling too superior.

As Herzog said, "there are other Annapurnas in the lives of men."
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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