installing some fix ropes at High Wire
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I think it will be a wise idea to do so considering the potential for bad falls both in the river and on the highway from above the tunnel. Not to mention the number of climbers that climb in the area. |
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Really not needed. It is an easy scramble up and down. Don't take the right route (on the way up, which everyone does) as it puts you over the highway. Fixed ropes are not going to make the approach any safer. If you don't like how you get to the area then go climb somewhere else. |
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May want to run this by the Jeffco rangers first. |
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Parker Wrozek wrote:Really not needed. It is an easy scramble up and down. Don't take the right route (on the way up, which everyone does) as it puts you over the highway. Fixed ropes are not going to make the approach any safer. If you don't like how you get to the area then go climb somewhere else.Everyone goes right because it is the way to go, if you go straight it is loose dirt. Anyway I don't usually climb at high wire and the scramble is easy, but a fall can be really bad. Hopefully no one else will break their back |
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Don't know the area at all, but I've done some heinous approaches on scree and bushwhacking. Sometimes that is what it takes to keep an area peaceful and not overrun like so many areas are. |
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Julian, going the not right route is on rock. it is more of a class 4 climb instead of the hike around to the right by the road. It is in the Mabe guidebook (which also says don't go to the right), not sure about the new book. Kyler R wrote:Don't know the area at all, but I've done some heinous approaches on scree and bushwhacking. Sometimes that is what it takes to keep an area peaceful and not overrun like so many areas are. Also, in today's age, fixing ropes and then not maintaining them is your liability and ultimately they end up as trash and we have enough trash in our forests.It is probably in the top 3 most visited crags in clear creek canyon. |
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Please tell me you're joking. |
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^^^^^^ This. |
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This was done before. The bolt was chopped. |
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Kyler R wrote:Don't know the area at all, but I've done some heinous approaches on scree and bushwhacking. Sometimes that is what it takes to keep an area peaceful and not overrun like so many areas are. Also, in today's age, fixing ropes and then not maintaining them is your liability and ultimately they end up as trash and we have enough trash in our forests.Maybe the approach needs to be marked better. This will give you an idea of the prestige wilderness I'm talking about :-) (the people are crossing the bridge) The New Wall that has a fix rope across a slab because 5.14 sport climbers don't know how to deal with a little slab. There is also a fixed rope on in a gully straight up from the approach to The Highlander. It is not even close to the approach trail. Anybody knows why it is there? high wire |
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Agreed with all the replies so far. Very much not needed. Would get removed undoubtedly. |
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I think we should install an elevator |
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JeffCo needs to fix the air conditioning. |
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Parker Wrozek wrote:Really not needed. It is an easy scramble up and down. Don't take the right route (on the way up, which everyone does) as it puts you over the highway. Fixed ropes are not going to make the approach any safer. If you don't like how you get to the area then go climb somewhere else.Well if you're not going to install a rope, at least tape the route! Please use blue, I am color blind to red so that would be inconvenient for me. |
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Good one |
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Parker Wrozek wrote:Really not needed. It is an easy scramble up and down. Don't take the right route (on the way up, which everyone does) as it puts you over the highway. Fixed ropes are not going to make the approach any safer. If you don't like how you get to the area then go climb somewhere else.^this^ |
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J. Thompson wrote:This was done before. The bolt was chopped. -JoshSo it is ok to chop bolts if I think the climbing is easy? :-) or If I can't make it to the crux of the climb I shouldn't be on the climb. Actually, the last one is not that bad rule of thumb. |
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JulianG wrote: So it is ok to chop bolts if I think the climbing is easy? :-) or If I can't make it to the crux of the climb I shouldn't be on the climb. Actually, the last one is not that bad rule of thumb.If the walk in is too hard for you, uhhh, yep. |
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highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion wrote: If the walk in is too hard for you, uhhh, yep.I bruised my left heel earlier this year, it takes for ever to heal. Walking has been a pain with every step. |
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It's no skin off my back, but seriously, what's it to you if there's a fixed rope on the approach? It's going to ruin your wilderness experience? Nobody is asking you to do anything; the OP said he'd do it himself. |
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Looking at that picture of the approach with the red line it appears as if dropping stuff into the road is a potential problem. Is all the rock on the right side solid? |