PORTER(S) Wanted into Deep Lake, Wind Rivers, Labor Day
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There are outfitters with mules, horses, and lamas that work the Wind Rivers: |
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Thanks. I have sent out emails and haven't gotten any responses, so this is my back-up plan. |
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You want porters, not sherpas. Sherpa is an ethnicity not a job. |
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JoeCrawford wrote:You want porters, not sherpas. Sherpa is an ethnicity not a job.Actually, the term "sherpa" now means well paid baby sitter. Used to be slang for porter. You might contact Exum or JHMG's to see if they have young, strong backs for hire. Seems like there was a post earlier this year by a feller who porters? |
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Sherpa (Tibetan: "eastern people", from shar "east" and pa "people") are an ethnic group from the most mountainous region of Nepal, high in the Himalayas. Sherpa as a surname appears to be the result of the Nepalese government census takers. |
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Though JHMG doesn't offer porter services they might be able to suggest someone. 3077334979. |
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I was going to suggest finding an enterprising CU student that would carry a heavy pack for some extra cash but these llamas are probably more reliable. (Go Rams!) |
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Maybe try an outfit in Pinedale? Jackson is abt 3 hours from big Sandy and doesn't know the area like LOCALS. It amazes me how many people have suggested an outfit in Jackson. |
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Brian in SLC wrote: Actually, the term "sherpa" now means well paid baby sitter. Used to be slang for porter. You might contact Exum or JHMG's to see if they have young, strong backs for hire. Seems like there was a post earlier this year by a feller who porters?Youre dead wrong here. Sherpa is an ethnic hroup and the surname for its members. Porters carry gear, some of them are sherpa, but in the US the chance of having a Sherpa porter is infantecimally small. It is nothing but ignorance to call a porter a sherpa as if the two words are interchangeable. |
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From "Climbing the Complete Reference" on page 204 at the entry, "Sherpas": |
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I have spent many weeks climbing in Deep Lake/Haystack area. When we were climbing big walls, we had spot gear drops for obvious reasons. |
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Brian in SLC wrote:From "Climbing the Complete Reference" on page 204 at the entry, "Sherpas": "Sherpas have become the preeminent porters and assistants on high-altitude expeditions, and thus the term Sherpa is often erroneously used as a generic term for any Himalayan native who works as a high-altitude porter." References in the index of early British climbing literature to "Sherpa" also say, "See Porters". See 1921, 1922, 1924... From the wiki page on "Porter": "Porters, frequently called Sherpas in the Himalayas (after the ethnic group most Himalayan porters come from), are also an essential part of mountaineering: they are typically highly skilled professionals who specialize in the logistics aspect of mountain climbing, not merely people paid to carry loads (although carrying is integral to the profession)." Like I stated, the word "Sherpa" was (and sometimes still is) used to mean "porter". And, you're correct, its out of ignorance. When I climbed locally here with a Sherpa, and, my pack carried most of the gear, we joked that I was "Sherpa". Another thing about that ethnic group the Sherpa, they have a great sense of humor. We might all learn something from their humility and humor...I love that you're quoting the early 1900 British literature (because they have always been so culturally aware) and Wiki. |
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mediocre wrote: I love that you're quoting the early 1900 British literature (because they have always been so culturally aware) and Wiki.Source material, man. Slang comes from somewhere. Question: Was Tenzing Norgay a Sherpa? |
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RockinGal asked about getting gear carried in, not a treatise on Sherpas. |
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Thanks, Arlo, for your info and comments. I did receive a reply from Big Sandy Lodge. A horse is now $195 for a day. We may go with that. |
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Hey RockinGal, don't forget the cost of the wrangler (and her/his horse). The cost ends up being ~$380 per day for 1 pack horse and the required wrangler+horse needed to lead said pack horse. |
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Alesks Sebastian. I heard he's a mule that eats fish heads, and will happily tote gear.. - |
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Brian I don't believe he was, if memory serves I think he was Tibetan but married to a Sherpa woman, at least his first wife. But I could very well be wrong. Correct me if I am. |
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Erik, |