Cigarettes and climbing courtesy.

PhoenixJones wrote:In the golden days many climbers smoked cigarettes during the climb. On an alpine expedition cigarettes were more cherished than Sherpa tea. Back then, physicians recommended that climbers smoke to enjoy the benefits of relaxation, focus and lung exercise. Perhaps the widespread cigarette smoking in the golden days explains why there were so many more first ascents back then than there are now. Annapurna? Everest? K2? First ascended by legends who trusted the benefits of a healthful smoke. Cigarettes and first ascents - the correlation is strong. Legend has it that even Eddy Whymper smoked a "summit pipe" during his first ascent of the Matterhorn in 1865. Interestingly, Whymper's tobacco was supposedly Louisiana Perique supplied by British traders who evaded the Union Navy blockade of Port Fourchon. These anti-cigarette climbers are the ones logging 54th ascents of imaginary routes. My advice: take a carton of good quality smokes to the Alaska Range. You'll be back on MP bragging about your first ascents before you know it! P.S. I don't advocate bragging on MP, it can be a dangerous habit.

And bullshit is still shit from a bull, doesn't matter how well it correlates to the delivery of flowers on mother's day, films that Nicholas Cage appears in, or the marriage rate of Kentucky.

I think your right I've never finished a multi pitch climb without a good Rollie cigarette and it makes for a good self victory present since a bottle of whiskey can be heavy and cumbersome!

PhoenixJones wrote:In the golden days many climbers smoked cigarettes during the climb. On an alpine expedition cigarettes were more cherished than Sherpa tea. Back then, physicians recommended that climbers smoke to enjoy the benefits of relaxation, focus and lung exercise. Perhaps the widespread cigarette smoking in the golden days explains why there were so many more first ascents back then than there are now. Annapurna? Everest? K2? First ascended by legends who trusted the benefits of a healthful smoke. Cigarettes and first ascents - the correlation is strong. Legend has it that even Eddy Whymper smoked a "summit pipe" during his first ascent of the Matterhorn in 1865. Interestingly, Whymper's tobacco was supposedly Louisiana Perique supplied by British traders who evaded the Union Navy blockade of Port Fourchon. These anti-cigarette climbers are the ones logging 54th ascents of imaginary routes. My advice: take a carton of good quality smokes to the Alaska Range. You'll be back on MP bragging about your first ascents before you know it! P.S. I don't advocate bragging on MP, it can be a dangerous habit.

Ah, the golden days, when most mountains and no crags had never been climbed; when one could walk up almost any mountain and claim '1st ascent', and then light up a pipe (of course in the golden age cigarettes were considered 'sissy' by the real gentlemen).

Fact is far more 1st ascents have been put up in the last 40 years than the 1st 140 years of climbing, and the vast majority of these 'new generation' 1st ascensionists do not smoke. So put that in your pipe and smoke it... (OK, that was meant to be funny, not to slight Pheonix).

Ha! :) Noob-ing it is not stressful on MP, I dig the style here. The easy sarcasm was followed by more of the same, obviously appreciated by all. I haven't laughed more in a long time.

But a swisher sweet tucked next to the gummy bears makes for a fine summit treat. As does cheesecake and a flask of kahlua.

PhoenixJones wrote:Ha! :) But a swisher sweet tucked next to the gummy bears makes for a fine summit treat. As does cheesecake and a flask of kahlua.

Sounds like a description of what Sam Hunt carries in his purse.

Try this instead:

A perfectly rolled Drum after a hank of granite dried yak loin jerky makes for a fine summit treat. As does a plug of Levi Garret and a flask of Johnny Walker (Red Label).

This reminds me of the time I looked in my pack at the top of a long route and said "sweet" cheerfully. My friend gets a big smile on his face and asks " What's up? You bring a summit joint?" No I replied, I found a cough drop. The look on his face was priceless! I didn't think we were ever climbing together again.. Ever! Haha

Bill Kirby wrote: This reminds me of the time I looked in my pack at the top of a long route and said "sweet" cheerfully. My friend gets a big smile on his face and asks " What's up? You bring a summit joint?" No I replied, I found a cough drop. The look on his face was priceless! I didn't think we were ever climbing together again.. Ever! Haha

The 'clog Wab', green hammer** & 4 inch bong instead of a cam on my lead rack has that same effect.
Unless I'm in Washington or Colorado .

**(sore-thumb strain, Green is mellow, the Red makes you jump 6 feet straight up from a stance)

20?

Ryan M Moore wrote:It's much better if you just do the passive aggressive fake cough from 10-15 feet away upwind. You still get that air of superiority and condescension going, but you don't need to risk a direct confrontation.

This makes me smoke more...

William Thiry wrote: I've seen them at crags too, but that's irrelevant. I've seen them all the time in places " I expect clean mountain air". If you're so concerned about "clean mountain air" I expect you to stay far away from campfires when you're in the great outdoors, otherwise you lack a coherent ideology. Again, I almost never come across campfires when climbing mountains, so it appears my ideology is not lacking in coherence. Are there people (smokers) actually picking on campfires and comparing them to smoking? Pretty rich stuff.

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Wait, Owen David is now Taylor Brooks? Wild... 

Smoking is disgusting and illegal in public. 

Fucking darts rule.

If you want to complain about someone smoking, make sure you can climb harder than they can. If they're walking up 5.12s after hacking a butt, and you're TRing a 5.7, you're not allowed to say anything about their life choices.

Yesterday the smokes really kept the bugs out of my face! Apparently two applications of deet was not enough.

Not Hobo Greg wrote:

Uh, yes you can, if their life choices impact yours. Your rights end where someone else’s begin. The idea that climbing harder than someone else entitles you to behave however you want is, for lack of a better word, retarded.

Read into his post more. Not reading into something written in plain English on a text based forum is, for lack of a better word, inconsiderate. 

So inconsiderate...

Used to go ice climbing with a tobacco chewer...  you could tell where he'd spit from the frozen brown snot.
I smoked camel straights in HS and a bit beyond before I wised up.  Still smoke, just no more tobacco.

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Smoke 'em if you got 'em.  Field strip yer butts.

Not Hobo Greg wrote:

Nope, how bout pack em out. How lazy can someone be? A butt weighs almost nothing, pocket that shit.

Hobo dude thats what he said.

American Spirits smell beautiful. I sent my hardest route with the fragrance of a light blue wafting up from my belayer (BG). Now I won’t climb with a partner who doesn’t smoke.

Also, cigarette smoke kills coronavirus, amirite?