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Would you replace a .3 C4 with another brand?
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I lost a BD .3 C4 last weekend. I planned on buying another until the idea of trying out Mastercams entered my mind. I could ask this when I get to the shop but thought I might get some interesting replies here. |
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Depends on where you climb but Green Totem basic. |
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Yes, I'm not a fan of C4 below 0.5 |
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x4 version, C3 yellow, or totem basic |
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The small mastercam's are great but I think their sizing fits perfectly between the BD sizes so I don't know if they would really be a one for one replacement. I think that the BD 0.3 fits between the yellow and blue mastercam so you might want both of them. |
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Totem Basic Green = Blue X4... |
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I know definitively what the best cam is in that size..... going with me to the grave! |
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Blue totem |
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green alien is smaller, but I tend to think of it as a good option in that size. |
csproul wrote:Yes, I'm not a fan of C4 below 0.5I've heard a lot of climbers say this. Could you please elaborate as to why? I personally have the Metolius Master Cams in sizes below the 0.5 C4 and am happy with them. But, I did notice the .3 and .4 C4's have a larger range than my small Metolius cams, so I sometimes wonder if I'm missing out.... |
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Blue Totem Sebastian Christopher wrote: I've heard a lot of climbers say this. Could you please elaborate as to why? I personally have the Metolius Master Cams in sizes below the 0.5 C4 and am happy with them. But, I did notice the .3 and .4 C4's have a larger range than my small Metolius cams, so I sometimes wonder if I'm missing out....The heads of C4s are much wider. About an entire lobe wider. As in if you would need to chop the 4th lobe off a .3 C4 to make it fit in a pin scar that a blue totem fits in. |
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I really like the additional width and burliness of the 0.3, 0.4, and 0.5 C4s. They are definitely more stout feeling than the X4 counterpart. For areas with a lot of parallel cracks, the head width hasn't been a problem for me. However, I also carry some narrower 4 lobe cams and frequently have C3s or TCUs racked, which fit into narrower placements. But if a placement will take both, I reach for the C4 before the C3,etc every time. |
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I'm a big fan of the 0.3 C4 and would definitely replace mine if I lost it. I picked one up after I already had TCU's and Mastercams figuring I'd only occasionally use it. Turns out it's one of my most reached for pieces. Like was mentioned earlier, I just like the range and solid feel when it's placed. |
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I love mine, but I match them with TCUs. I love my TCU's much much more. |
Nathanael wrote:Blue Totem The heads of C4s are much wider. About an entire lobe wider. As in if you would need to chop the 4th lobe off a .3 C4 to make it fit in a pin scar that a blue totem fits in.Sounds almost exactly like the C4 vs X4 |
 That might help you on sizes, you'll have to double check the actual C4 range though. Pretty sure that X4 and C4 .3 are a tad off. I have an X4 and a blue totem cam (not basic). I find that the totems actually fill the the X4 range perfectly. I went with the totems because I frequently climb on fairly large crystal granite, when I can't get the lobes quite parallel I'd rather be above a totem. |
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I am a huge fan of the totem cams. I ripped four pieces during a fall while aid climbing, the yellow totem held( I was starting to pick up some speed). It was placed in an old flared pin scar. They are my most trustworthy cam. |
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if you have the money, go with the totem (not basic). If not, i'd go with a red WC zero if you can find one. |
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.3 X4 |
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Totem basic. |
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It depends where you're climbing. A .3 and 4 are totally bomber and very durable for the size. They don't fit in as many spots as the aliens and stuff like that. |
