What does your Woody look like???

Ray Lovestead wrote:You guys are either incredibly patient, have an incredible amount of free time or simply have never actually done these elaborate methods (glue, alignment tools, etc.). Grab a BFH (big f$%ing hammer) and smack away. If you use decent plywood, this is the fastest way by a factor of 10. You are going to put in 500+ T-nuts, if it takes 5 minutes for each T-nut, that's 83 hours..

I agree, there is absolutely no way I'd ever have time to put t-nuts in other than with a hammer, however, I did glue all of my t-nuts in and it's really pretty easy, I would just do about 10 at a time, place the t-nuts in the holes, grab the calking gun with construction adhesive in it, squeeze a dab of glue under each t-nut and hammer away.

kennoyce wrote: I agree, there is absolutely no way I'd ever have time to put t-nuts in other than with a hammer, however, I did glue all of my t-nuts in and it's really pretty easy, I would just do about 10 at a time, place the t-nuts in the holes, grab the calking gun with construction adhesive in it, squeeze a dab of glue under each t-nut and hammer away.

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Ray Lovestead wrote:You guys are either incredibly patient, have an incredible amount of free time or simply have never actually done these elaborate methods (glue, alignment tools, etc.). Grab a BFH (big f$%ing hammer) and smack away. If you use decent plywood, this is the fastest way by a factor of 10. You are going to put in 500+ T-nuts, if it takes 5 minutes for each T-nut, that's 83 hours..

Agreed! I have >5,000 T-nuts in my wall and no way in hell was i doing anything other than bashing them in. That said, I did find that a good framing hammer works better than a small sledge, FWIW

Muscrat wrote:I have both, and 100% like the random pattern mo'betta. Visually the grid looks like...a grid, and how often do you see all the holds on rock in lines? Also, and i would guess that this is subjective, if just feels like you have more gradation and options with random. ¢.02

Also FWIW, I am quite happy with my 4" grid. 288 tnuts per sheet, so many options for setting. But to each their own.

Gary Patrick wrote:

Nice job man, very clean and professional looking angles. How high is the ceiling?

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Used to add on, improve, get creative with my outdoor woody' each summer since I built it in '94' This summer we did a major upgrade of some bent and rotty boards, and have the biggest, tallest addition ever put up in the last 8 very slow years. Hope to get a lot of use out of it now that the weather has turned in our favor finally around here. Added solid clip anchors too, so first leads can be done and not just top roped routes. Not that high, but you can use the worst holds and the longest reach to make the clip just for the practice.

Nice. next step for 2017: dig a hole and build a pool for DWS.

RE: grid vs random

If your grid is reasonably tightly spaced, the varying size of holds make it somewhat less "grid like".

Earlier in the week I put a bunch of holds on a grid-spaced 45deg wall, aiming for "a hold in every t-nut" kind of training board.

By rotating where the good part of holds are, and using varying size holds, it doesn't climb especially "grid like", the only place I found issues was in the foothold jibs for the bottom 24" or so of the board, they did seem too much of a grid. Adding some screw-ons solved that.

An alternative to grid vs. random is to stagger each row. so you essentially have a grid, but each row is offset halfway. Completely random tends to look like a hack job in most cases. just depends on how you want your wall to look.

TBlom wrote:An alternative to grid vs. random is to stagger each row. so you essentially have a grid, but each row is offset halfway. Completely random tends to look like a hack job in most cases. just depends on how you want your wall to look.

Agree, the random t-nut placements I have seen always looked sloppy.

I had an offset 4" grid like so:

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Wanted more t-nuts so I doubled them, now I have a 4" grid like so

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It never feels contrived, there are so many options for every hold placement. I don't regret at all.

Hey Guys, just logged on to this site for the first time and I have to say, you all are a bunch of awesome, original, dedicated builders and climbers.
I just recently got into climbing and have two kids, 10 and 12, and have been bitten hard by the climbing bug. The wife calls me obsessed.
I am looking at building a woody in my garage and have been trying to figure out how much it will cost me.

Any guesstimates what an 8X12 foot wall would cost with about a 100 or so holds of various sizes?

Thanks all for the awesome pictures...so many ideas.

Seth Jones wrote:... I have too many big holds and not enough tough crimpers on my wall. Would anyone want to trade some nearly new crimps for some of my nearly new larger holds?...

Can u put pictures of the holds in this forum?

I bought a lot of assorted crimps from synrock.
they are ugly but with just one box of those it will be enough.

ebay.com/itm/60-Synrock-scr…

Seth Jones wrote: What kind of resin are those made with? Do they crack if you over-tighten them?

They area a ceramic, not a resin, I've never actually used them, but hear that they are very comfortable to climb on, and I believe that they do crack if you over-tighten them.

yes, they are not plastic. and you can´t use thick screws. but so far none have broken when I tight them (with screws). on the other hand, they do break if you put them on irregular "flat" spots (i.e. where two sheets of plywood match and one of them pronounces more).

They are more fragile if you let them fall or if you step on them or put weigth on them when not in the wall (stored mine in a bucket and from 200+ holds, two of them broke). but for crimps or small chips i think is the best option.

A wall with just synrocks will not be appealing. just buy some to add variety.

Here is a video of my ten year old Daughter on our Bouldering fence.
It's a start, but I would love to get an indoor place to climb as it is dam cold here for six months a year.

youtube.com/watch?v=nnu9T1U…

Has anyone used holds from these guys?

rockymountainclimbinggear.c…

Johnny Kipp wrote:Has anyone used holds from these guys? rockymountainclimbinggear.c…

Yep, I bought a set to try out, by far the worst holds I have ever touched. don't waste your money.

Johnny Kipp wrote:Has anyone used holds from these guys? rockymountainclimbinggear.c…

I've bought them before. I thought they were pretty good for the value. Not a lot of variety in a set - mostly jugs but you could rotate them for smaller edges.