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Valley Uprising: Documentary or Entertainment Film?

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Eric Engberg wrote: All these are generally in the context of sport climbing.
Yep. Since that's mostly what I climb now....

BITD, before there was sport climbing and it was all just climbing, we simply referred to someone "putting in" or "putting up" a new route or "climbing a new route". If it was hard, they might be "working on" the route. But even the magazines of the day - Summit, Mountain, Off Belay - sometimes talked about "establishing" a route.
AaronJ · · Tokyo, JP · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 231

"Continental Divide: A History of American Mountaineering" by Maurice Isserman just came out a couple of months ago.

amazon.com/Continental-Divi…

JNE · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 2,110

So, I got this e-mail the other day:

JNE, PLEASE POST THE FOLLOWING NOTE ON MOUNTAINPROJECT:

MEN AND WOMEN! THE NEW AND IMPROVED BURT BRONSON HERE!

SO MANY OF YOU MAY BE WONDERING WHAT I HAVE BEEN UP TO THESE LAST FEW YEARS. ASIDE FROM BEING THE LAST BASTION OF ALL THAT IS MAN, I HAVE PICKED UP UP A NEW HOBBY: MAKING ALL OF REAL ROCKS CLIMBING MOVIES! IN MY LATEST VIDEO I FOLLOW TWO CLIMBERS AROUND TO COMPARE THEIR CLIMBING ACCOMPLISHMENTS. ONE OF THEM IS A MANLY MAN WHO HAS A WOMAN WHO COOKS AND CLEANS EVERYTHING FOR HIM AND DRIVES HIM TO THE CRAG AND ROPEGUNS HIS PROJECTS FOR HIM SO HE CAN PRACTICE THEM ON TR BEFORE ONSIGHTING THEM GROUND UP ON LEAD AT XI5.16dA5+++AI88, WHICH ROUGHLY TRANSLATES TO E71/10c+ OR "BURT BRONSON IS ALL THAT IS MAN" FOR ANYONE WHO PAYS ATTENTION TO SUCH THINGS. THE OTHER SUBJECT IS A MALE WHO IS IN SOME WACKY RELATIONSHIP IN WHICH THE OPERATIVE WORD IS "EQUALITY", WHICH IS PROBABLY JUST A CODE WORD FOR "I BEAT MY WIFE" WHICH I DON'T RESPECT OR ADMIRE SINCE I HAVE LEARNED RECENTLY THAT MEN ARE SUPPOSED TO CONTROL THEIR WIVES USING SOFT INSTEAD OF HARD POWER. THE TITLE OF THE MOVIE IS "WE CAME WE SAW WE JUDGED". WE WILL SEE HOW EACH OF THESE GUYS DOES BUT CLEARLY GUY NUMBER TWO STILL HAS SOME FIGURING OUT TO DO. ANYWAY, ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT VALLEY UPRISING IS MY SHINING STAR, MY ULTIMATE DREAM MOVIE, THE OLIVE BRANCH WHICH I EXTENDED MY WAY WHICH I CHERISH. BEFORE VALLEY UPRISING WOMEN WERE GETTING OUT OF HAND. THEY WERE SENDING SENDING SENDING AND MANY OF THEM HAD THE AUDACITY TO QUESTION MEN. A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THIS IS LYNNE HILL DOING THE FFA OF THE NOSE AND THEN SANDBAGGING THE GRADE. THIS BADLY HURT MY AND ALL OTHER MANLY MENS FEELINGS AND THE PAIN JUST WILL NOT GO AWAY: I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO SIT DOWN ON ANY SURFACE WHICH IS NOT HEAVILY PADDED FOR YEARS. THE PAIN IS SIMPLY TOO MUCH TO BEAR. THE TEARS MY FELLOW MANLY MEN AND I CRIED OVER IT SOAKED OUR BEARDS THROUGH AND THROUGH, AND THEN RAN TOGETHER TO FORM A RIVER: YES, WE DID JUST LIKE LYNNE TOLD US TO, BUT ONLY AFTER WE COULD NOT SIT DOWN FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. WHAT CAN I SAY, WE ARE ALL THAT IS MAN, SO WE HELD OFF AS LONG AS WE COULD, WHICH WAS BASICALLY FOREVER. THANK GOD SHE WAS ALMOST ENTIRELY LEFT OUT OF THE MOVIE! NOW THE TEARS STREAM NO MORE AND THE RIVER OF OUR WOES RUNS DRY. THANKS TO VALLEY UPRISING ALL THE PUBLIC NOW KNOWS THAT CURRENT YOSEMITE AID CLIMBERS ARE THE MOST DEDICATED AND AWESOME AND INSPIRATIONAL CLIMBERS THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN! WE CAN ALL STOP WORRYING THAT FREE CLIMBING WILL CATCH THE IMAGINATIONS OF NEW CLIMBERS, AND SO STOP WORRYING THAT ANY YOUNG BOYS WILL LOOK UP TO HOW LYNN APPROACHED CLIMBING! NEVER AGAIN WILL SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHOLE NOSE DEBACLE HAPPEN TO US PROUD GUARDIANS OF TRADITIONALISM! NIGHTMARE AVERTED! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT JUST A SHORT TIME AGO AID CLIMBING IN YOSEMITE WAS BEING COMPARED TO VIA FERRATA!?! LIKE, I KNOW!!! NOT ANYMORE! THE FRUITS OF MY LABOR! VALLEY UPRISING! WOOT WOOT!

BURT BRONSON
ALL THAT IS MAN

climbing coastie · · Wasilla, AK · Joined Feb 2011 · Points: 95

This just came accross my news feed and thought some people might enjoy it.

outsideonline.com/2075501/2…

Luc Ried · · Batesville, AR · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 440

Dean's free base is an evolution of climbing that may or may not evolve further in the future

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65

Came across this the other day....
outsideonline.com/2075501/2…

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480
Marc801 wrote:Came across this the other day.... outsideonline.com/2075501/2…
So did the guy two posts ago :)
Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Bill Kirby wrote: So did the guy two posts ago :)
Jacob Smith · · Seattle, WA · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 230
JNE wrote:So, I got this e-mail the other day: JNE, PLEASE POST THE FOLLOWING NOTE ON MOUNTAINPROJECT: MEN AND WOMEN! THE NEW AND IMPROVED BURT BRONSON HERE! [...]
This is magnificent.
Laronicus Lehmanold · · Salt Lake, UT · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 290
Guy Keesee wrote:Laron.... go get the Green Guide Book for Yosemite. ergodebooks.com/index.php?r… For the Valley start here, Steve Roper was/is one of the big boys from back in the day. Guide Books are not made like this nowdays... to many stories and names of the first ascent folks. It will learn you some info about the early days.
Added to my book wish list. I get paid Friday and am excited to buy some new books! Thank you!
Laronicus Lehmanold · · Salt Lake, UT · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 290
JNE wrote:"BURT BRONSON IS ALL THAT IS MAN" .... SO STOP WORRYING THAT ANY YOUNG BOYS WILL LOOK UP TO HOW LYNN APPROACHED CLIMBING! NEVER AGAIN WILL SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHOLE NOSE DEBACLE HAPPEN TO US PROUD GUARDIANS OF TRADITIONALISM! NIGHTMARE AVERTED! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT JUST A SHORT TIME AGO AID CLIMBING IN YOSEMITE WAS BEING COMPARED TO VIA FERRATA!?! LIKE, I KNOW!!! NOT ANYMORE! THE FRUITS OF MY LABOR! VALLEY UPRISING! WOOT WOOT! BURT BRONSON ALL THAT IS MAN
So much awesome right here. Many laughs were had.
Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Laron..... if you want books check this out....the Mother-load on sale

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2825530/FS-Huge-Trove-of-Books

Woodchuck ATC · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 3,280

Besides the much enjoyed early history elements, I think the purpose of the film truly WAS to concentrate on the history and era of the Stonemasters'. I could have watched 2 more hours of their antics and fun days ! They were the Uprising, for the title. I'm just not sure most attendees at yearly ReelRock were aware that this was a stand alone film, and not a series of 4 or 5 short segments that actually usually total up to a longer film than 'Uprising did. I was told over a year before, that it would be released as a stand alone DVD, not be substituted as the ReelRock film of the season. Lots of sporty's had no idea of who they were, or even cared for that matter who they were. I wonder how sales were of DVD compared to something line King Lines a few years back.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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