Wild country REVO

Another video demonstrating hands-free lockup.

youtube.com/watch?v=fUFcbAY…

Brian L. wrote: Don't see that anywhere on their site. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ No place I've seen with a price actually lets you order. Since WC hasn't publicly priced it yet, or even announced a release date, I kind of doubt the retailers know. but whatever, this thread isn't about arguing price. It's a cool device, regardless of if you want to buy one or not, or how much they want to charge.

Jim Titt wrote: &80 from Dicks, ca €100 from German stores. Release early 2017. Possibly!

Someone found another video, with a fall near the end. Looks like a bit of a stiff catch.

(Video is in English)

youtube.com/watch?v=Q4E8ESF…

Brian L. wrote: Yeah but you can't actually order it. Or pre-order it. Where did you see the release timing?

Tradgic Yogurt wrote:Someone found another video, with a fall near the end. Looks like a bit of a stiff catch. (Video is in English) youtube.com/watch?v=Q4E8ESF…

To release, from what I see you have to pull the rope to the normal braking position. Watch the exploded view video Wild Country has and you can see this.

My guess is he was able to release it, but didn't pull hard enough to keep it braking, so it went around another revolution and locked. Definitely a learning point with the device if true.

If you look at the original instagram photo you can see what looks like a little black lever. I'm pretty sure that lever is used to release it from the locked position without having to unweight the device.

jacob m s wrote:If you look at the original instagram photo you can see what looks like a little black lever. I'm pretty sure that lever is used to release it from the locked position without having to unweight the device.

Maybe? To me it looked like the belayer was hanging on the rope and the climber got back on the wall faster than expected. His left hand didn't appear to touch the device, and his right is locked off.

can it be used to belay a second from the anchor? Like the ATC in guide mode.

because it works off centrifugal forces it should work regardless of orientation. Now working well could be a big question.

since it unlocks by pulling the rope into the normal "locked" position, I'd expect you need to set it up where you're above the device - just like a directly belay with a regular atc.

Also, it seems to me the locking feature on this device is secondary. It's advertised as "anti-panic", and it's seems the device can catch a fall without locking. I wonder how durable it will be if the auto-locking feature was used consistently.

If I met someone using a truly "idiot proof" belay device, I would suspect they're an idiot.

To me it acts like a car sit belt. Once engaged will not release until the pressure is not gone. It will be interesting to see how it acts after a fall when the leader is heavier than the belayed or lowering faster with out engaging the auto lock.

in my opinion, device is cool, I just don't like teeth-rib parts. the wheel is made of aluminium, so the ribs will quickly wear. Looks like the only braking part of device, when lowering, are two V-ribbed parts on the top of device, one only will brake, while the wheel will rotate, and I don't like this. The wear of the rope is critical, and if the lowering is to fast, the centrifugal trigger will be quite noisy, trying to catch V-ribbed part.

"soft" catch? no way, but it is really important?!
rappelling? no way, but it is really important?!
one year re-certification? definitely yes! if not the device is potential danger.

would you accept re-certification each year? for me is OK to have regular service on device like this.

Here's an idea, how about manufacturing a device that is easily taken apart and reassembled. This way you can buy specific replacement parts and a fraction of the cost of a new device. Seems simple enough.

JoeGaribay wrote:Here's an idea, how about manufacturing a device that is easily taken apart and reassembled. This way you can buy specific replacement parts and a fraction of the cost of a new device. Seems simple enough.

I was just thinking that you should leave the design decisions to the engineers. But lawsuits probably work too.

Cams have replaceable parts, why can't a belay device? Think for 60 seconds and you can conjure up a dozen other very dangerous, highly liability-prone things that can be disassembled, reassembled, and serviced by the owner. Cars, guns, major appliances, etc etc etc...