Valley Uprising: Documentary or Entertainment Film?
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So, I finally watched Valley Uprising. It seemed to be lacking facts (the small amount of facts seemed distorted based on the personal opinion/perception of the filmmakers); tried to dramatize a relationship between two climbers who rarely met (robbins and harding- unless I am wrong, and they did in fact meet lots); barely touched the history of western climbing; and did not really focus on the climbing in Yosemite (scoring gasoline-lake pot is more important to discuss, not). Most of the movie focused on the group called, "the stone masters"; purportedly the best climbers of their day (according to the movie). To me, this was dumb. |
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It's entertainment, and I love it. I've watched it 2 or 3 times since it's been on Netflix, and I saw it once before that! |
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mountainsandwater.com/2015/…
was my take on this film |
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Excellent documentary. It can't be all things to all people. Unless you want a six-hour movie. |
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1. it's both |
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It's pretty clear that it was produced "for the masses" and not, like previous Reel Rock films, "for the climbers". |
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Marc801 wrote:1. it's both 2. I really liked itI get the argument of the whole "time frame" thing with movies. Books are always better with being thorough. However, this movie seemed to want to discuss the actions of people away from crags, specifically the stone masters- glorifying their behaviors, and in my opinion, trying to depict all dedicated climbers as the hippie dirt bags they were (most of us do not prescribe to such a depiction/lifestyle, and we abide by local, state, and federal laws). Seems to me like they could have focused another half hour or more to some of those climbers listed before the credits, instead of stroking their own egos. |
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man, people always need something to be butt-hurt about. |
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I thought this documentary was rad and it got me really psyched to start climbing hard again. |
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Jake wander wrote:man, people always need something to be butt-hurt about.I don't detect one ounce of butt hurt in any of the above responses. Butt hurt is not synonymous with criticism. Yes, butt hurt is measured in ounces. |
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Laron Lemon wrote: "the stone masters"; purportedly the best climbers of their day (according to the movie).I haven't seen the movie yet so I don't know exactly how they were portrayed, but I think most would agree that they were very influential during that time period. |
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Nick Sweeney wrote:It's entertainment, and I love it. I've watched it 2 or 3 times since it's been on Netflix, and I saw it once before that!Finally, something I actually want to watch on Netflix. Guess I know what I'm doing tonight. |
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Nick Sweeney wrote:It's entertainment, and I love it. I've watched it 2 or 3 times since it's been on Netflix, and I saw it once before that!Agreed. Excellent entertainment, even with my criticisms. (: |
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Peter Beal wrote:http://www.mountainsandwater.com/2015/01/valley-uprising-review.html was my take on this filmPeter, thank you. Your input is greatly appreciated. I would love to learn more about the history of climbing in the United States. Where can I find a comprehensive history? Is there one? |
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This was what I thought about it: |
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I was surprised at how little they talked about Choinard or the impact of climbing technology on the free-climbing revolution. It's s fun flick, though. Watched it about a week before Dean died, too...was eerie. |
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Laron Lemon wrote: Peter, thank you. Your input is greatly appreciated. I would love to learn more about the history of climbing in the United States. Where can I find a comprehensive history? Is there one?I learned a lot from this documentary film: m.youtube.com/watch?v=XvJK5… |
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Been discussed a couple of times already- |
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J Marsella wrote: avoirdupois, troy, or (pleas god no) fluid?Well Emperor Palpatine told us to "Let the butthurt flow through you", so I assume that it is a liquid and therefore is measured in fluid ounces. |
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Em Cos wrote: I learned a lot from this documentary film: m.youtube.com/watch?v=XvJK5…That was great :) |
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If you want more history and less glitter, read Camp 4. Very good book on the history of the valley climbing. I personally really like valley uprising, its informative enough for most while still being entertaining to the masses. |