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bearbreeder wrote: kettles, black pots, and all datRight. Because I'm the one that feels the need to preach to everyone and post incessantly on every thread so that there is no question that I AM THE AUTHORITY in the subject on which I comment. Wait. That's you. Hawties, whippahz, foreign spec sheets from 1997, and so forth and so on. Ad nauseum. ;) |
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bearbreeder wrote:UL mastercamsThose things suck, BTW. Just one man's opinion (substantiated by trying to place those squirrely things). Not a fan of the Petzl Ange either, or the helium. I mean, fine, I'm not using steel ovals and 11m ropes, but saving weight for gear that places and clips poorly doesn't make sense to me. Also, I do fall on gear and want it to survive a few falls. That's probably why my link cams are collecting dust... |
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PS: Am I the only one who has bent lobes on his C4? |
Seth Kane wrote: Except the max range on the metolius #8 is 77.4 mm so the black diamond are still lighter per mm of range as a set. (8.5 g/mm for BD vs. 9.95 g/mm for met, so ~15% lighter/mm averaged across the entire range). Comparing weight as a set isn't very useful when the BD #3 is significantly bigger.True, so you have to compare met 1-7 to bd .3-2, and Metolius again wins on weight & units. |
Seth Kane wrote: Not sure why you'd include the Met 1/BD .3 as it's outside of the range of the BD ULs. I get 9.13 g/mm for BD ULs (.4-2, 15.5-64.9mm) and 10.15 g/mm for Met (2-7, 15.4-63.5mm). For comparison regular C4s are 12.3 g/mm in the same range.Right, you are cherry picking mm of range, not total weight or units available. .4, .5, .75, 1, 2 bd 5 units, 460g = 92g/unit 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 met 6 units, 488g = 81.3g/unit |
Seth Kane wrote: Except the max range on the metolius #8 is 77.4 mm so the black diamond are still lighter per mm of range as a set. (8.5 g/mm for BD vs. 9.95 g/mm for met, so ~15% lighter/mm averaged across the entire range). Comparing weight as a set isn't very useful when the BD #3 is significantly bigger.generally the large purple metolius is roughly comparable to the big blue BD is actual use ... for many years folks have been using em just fine sure you get a bit more range with the BD blue ... but then with the metolius you get an extra cam which can be just as useful as one can see the closest equivalent to the BD blue is the metolius purple ...unless one uses "copy cams" (dragons or the new WC) the ranges will never be exact  not to mention the UL mastercams have a narrower head and will fit in places the BDs wont and they arent cams that you MUST dispose (or at least not resell of) in less than 10 years even if in "good" condition folks have been making the same argument over the C4s an the UL TCU/powercams for a decade now ... except that the C4s were never disposable cams Ball wrote: Those things suck, BTW. Just one man's opinion (substantiated by trying to place those squirrely things). Not a fan of the Petzl Ange either, or the helium. I mean, fine, I'm not using steel ovals and 11m ropes, but saving weight for gear that places and clips poorly doesn't make sense to me. Also, I do fall on gear and want it to survive a few falls. That's probably why my link cams are collecting dust...my purple link cam has take 20+ whippahz you should whip on yours ;) |
bearbreeder wrote:my purple link cam has take 20+ whippahz you should whip on yours ;)  |
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Brock B. wrote:According to Black Diamond: With normal use and proper care, the typical lifespan of an Ultralight Camalot is three to five years.Bringing this back up because I happened to be looking for the lifespan information today. It's no longer in the instructions! If you look at the 2015 instructions it says 3-5 year typical, 10 years max. demandware.edgesuite.net/aa… In the new 2016 instructions they don;t list ANY lifespan at all! demandware.edgesuite.net/aa… Seem's BD didn't like the bad press, but seems pretty disingenuous. Clearly nothing's changed with the product. |
Brian L. wrote: Bringing this back up because I happened to be looking for the lifespan information today. It's no longer in the instructions! If you look at the 2015 instructions it says 3-5 year typical, 10 years max. demandware.edgesuite.net/aa… In the new 2016 instructions they don;t list ANY lifespan at all! demandware.edgesuite.net/aa… Seem's BD didn't like the bad press, but seems pretty disingenuous. Clearly nothing's changed with the product.Looks like right in the left hand corner of the hieroglyphs there is one that says "<10yrs" is that not a lifespan? |
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Ah, I missed that. Looks like the combined instructions with the regular C4? |
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Has anyone tried (or know of..) gutting/tear down on an UL Camalot? I'm curious to know if 're-slinging' the Continuous Dyneema Core is possible. |
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Wow, talk about a thread resurrection |
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"bring out yer dead!" |
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Nope--its built in and once riveted to the head its a done deal--FEB |
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i didn't see the dates on the OP and was reading a link about BD's new gym-to-crag lineup and thought it was satire... |
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FEB, |
jackscoldsweat wrote: FEB, here's the patent. it is spliced around the cam head. https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150290499A1 check out this thread on the subject already https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/114162474/bd-ultralight-lifespan-are-you-mad-we-can-do-something-about-it?page=3 |
