What next on the gear wish list?
|
Hey everyone, first post, but have been using mountain project for a while now. I've been gathering the gear necessary to start climbing outside of gyms, but I feel like I'm at a loss at what to get next. What I have now: |
|
Time on rock and experienced partners. That's all you need now bud the rest will figure itself out as you go. If you can hire a guide for a day and have them help you with building and managing a top rope site safely. It may seem trivial but a guide should be able to help you gain knowledge way better, quicker, and safer. Good luck! |
|
If TR-ing is the focus for now, you don't need anything else, in my book, your good to go. Next on the list however, I would put some draws, so you can start leading sport climbs in the future. Assuming you just feel the burn to get your hands on some more toys (i know I've been guilty of that before). Also a gri-gri might be worth considering. |
|
Depending on where you live, I would get at least 100' of static rope. A lot of places you may use trees to set top ropes and the trees may be situated far from the cliff edge. |
|
Andrew O'Brien wrote:Time on rock and experienced partners. That's all you need now bud the rest will figure itself out as you go. If you can hire a guide for a day and have them help you with building and managing a top rope site safely. It may seem trivial but a guide should be able to help you gain knowledge way better, quicker, and safer. Good luck!This: the amount of knowledge you'd get from a day out with a guide would be worth every penny, and probably save you money in the long run experimenting with gear purchases. |
|
Way more QDs and shoulder length runners! |
|
Thanks for the replies guys. I agree that time and experience is the main thing I need now. Unfortunately Ohio sucks for climbing, particularly the Cleveland area. Everywhere that's decent is at least three hours away. |
|
I'm confused. You say you are building anchors but you just have webbing and carabiners. Are you only using natural features? You may want to look into a set of stoppers or hexes to expand your anchor building options. Static line is also very helpful for setting anchors. If you do get stoppers, get a nut tool as well to help remove them. Two 15' pieces of webbing is hardly anything at all if you are needing them to sling natural features and unite your anchor into a masterpoint. Get either a 70' piece of webbing or a 20-30m static line. Depending on where you're setting anchors obviously. Your area might need less. Is the area where you're setting anchors top-access? |
|
Assuming you're planning on top roping at the beginning (which I would highly recommend, and flatland crags usually have top-access) then the main thing to determine is whether the areas/routes you want to climb have bolted anchors or if you have to build your own. |
|
Eplumer400...do you have one of these? This "stiffy" with a Trigger Wire carabiner on the business end should be on every climbers Xmas gear list. Very helpful in tight spots. |
|
By building anchors I mean making the two 15' pieces of webbing into slings with water knots, girth hitched onto two trees (these routes are top accessed by the way sorry), then the two ends are tied together with a figure 8 on a bight to create two small loops which each have a locking carabiner on it that the rope is fed through. I'm sorry I didn't clarify earlier. |
|
I'm really confused...so, you've been climbing outdoors and setting anchors with the gear you have...and are wondering what additional gear you need? You should already know the answer to this! Have you come across a situation where you were unable to set an anchor or climb? What were you missing? I could throw out guesses and suggest that you buy static line or longer lengths of webbing if you're having trouble setting anchors because the trees/boulders are too far from the cliff...but you didn't mention that. I could suggest you get nuts, hexes, or other removable protection to build anchors where natural anchors aren't available...or I could suggest you pick up a set of quickdraws to go sport climbing. All would be potentially valid suggestions and good investments if that is what you want to do, but really the only important question is: what do you want to do? |
|
I want to continue top roping for now, and eventually ease myself into sport in the next couple years. I mentioned in the first post that I want longer pieces of webbing, specifically to build better anchors at places where anchoring points are father away from the cliff edge. |
|
I used to live in the cleveland area, and actually learned to climb here: mountainproject.com/v/whipp… |
|
Way more webbing. I'd say 2 50 ft lengths |
|
djh860 wrote:Way more webbing. I'd say 2 50 ft lengthsor even a single 100' length which is my go to for TRing, especially since it is only 30 cents a foot |
|
I want a Valley Giant or a Pamalot. |
|
Adam, I've been there a few times to hike and just look around, but haven't actually climbed due to the permits you have to get to climb which includes $250,000 in health insurance coverage. I definitely want to however. I've gone to the cleveland rock gym a couple times, not recently though. I've been to Kendall cliffs in peninsula more often. However I'm planning on going with a membership to CRG since they change their routes up more often than Kendall. I have a couple of buddies who want to get into it more but my girlfriends only really interested in gym climbing right now. |
|
I always climbed there, never with a permit... |
|
Maybe you should buy some books on technique, anchor building, etc. There are some very good sources of information out there. Freedom of the Hills, Climbing Anchors, Better Bouldering, The Crack Climber's Technique Manual, and many more. |
|
No need to buy any more webbing or static line. Just use those two sections of 30M ropes you have from your damaged 60M rope. Problem solved. Just be aware that using dynamic line will increase the amount of total stretch in your system. The real-world implication is that if the climber falls on the opening moves of a climb, rope stretch alone could drop them all the way to the ground, even though you were giving a "tight" belay. |