SizeSquirrel - Climbing Shoe Sizing & Sales

Eddie Ferrer wrote: Not rude at all Rob, I appreciate the feedback and concern. There are several reasons for this behavior: - From a user interface/design perspective I think it would be cumbersome to input many shoes and sizes, specially as features expand. So now you're searching for the shoe, then selecting size, and fit. Some people have 10+ shoes... If you leave the site and ever come back you'll have to add all those shoes again. - The site literally does not work without user data. While I dont mind offering simple matching for unregistered users. Everybody wins when users sign up and fill out their profile. Hopefully as the site grows and features are added you might find reasons to use it more than once. Personally I love having my profile as a reminder of what sizes I wear...

that all makes a lot of sense, thanks! I really wasn't trying to be a dick, I just didn't understand why creating an account was necessary for comparing shoe sizes.

Thoughts on adding approach shoes?

Jaya Smith wrote:Thoughts on adding approach shoes?

It's coming

Eddie,

If you would...allay our skepticism. Will you get paid for click-throughs and for any buys on shoes sites you link to through services such as AdSense? Do you now, or plan on, making any money from this site?

Brian wrote:Eddie, If you would...allay our skepticism. Will you get paid for click-throughs and for any buys on shoes sites you link to through services such as AdSense? Do you now, or plan on, making any money from this site?

Right now the site is pulling the shoe images through amazon by means of the affiliate program, so if you were to click on a shoe image it would take you to amazon and i would get a small percentage of that sale. This is mostly done because its the best source for me to pull shoe images from. As you can see I'm not calling attention to this.

The site is of course a net loss at the moment, hosting costs, time, etc. I don't have any plans for the future yet, but if the site gets large enough where hosting costs will be an issue I'll have to think about this more.

Eddie Ferrer wrote: Right now the site is pulling the shoe images through amazon by means of the affiliate program, so if you were to click on a shoe image it would take you to amazon and i would get a small percentage of that sale. This is mostly done because its the best source for me to pull shoe images from. As you can see I'm not calling attention to this. The site is of course a net loss at the moment, hosting costs, time, etc. I don't have any plans for the future yet, but if the site gets large enough where hosting costs will be an issue I'll have to think about this more.

Thanks for being up front about your business model. Good luck with the site.

A quick update...

Approach Shoes
I've added a lot of the popular models of approach shoes. It was definitely a feature that a lot of people were requesting, so now you can find the 5.10 Tennies and Evolv Cruzers and other approach shoes on SizeSquirrel.

I'm convinced the only way this will lead to satisfied comparisons is if foot shape/toe arrangement is taken into account.

See this thread:
mountainproject.com/v/shoul…

Several posters with same street shoe sized feet (10.5/44) recommending shoes from 42 and up. One poster had 42.5 as comfy, where as another found 43 excruciatingly tight. Variance must be in foot shape/toe arrangement.

(or manufacturing variability or pain tolerance or....)

Just registered... Absolutely love this idea.

Just a suggestion: instead of a basic 1-5 scale could you possibly do 1 for comfort 1 for performance 1 for rubber stickyness or something...just an idea. Either ready, love this idea. Thanks for making it.

Jason Todd wrote:I'm convinced the only way this will lead to satisfied comparisons is if foot shape/toe arrangement is taken into account. See this thread: mountainproject.com/v/shoul… Several posters with same street shoe sized feet (10.5/44) recommending shoes from 42 and up. One poster had 42.5 as comfy, where as another found 43 excruciatingly tight. Variance must be in foot shape/toe arrangement. (or manufacturing variability or pain tolerance or....)

Thanks for the feedback. I think matching by street shoe size is pretty inaccurate because of the variance in sizing. Also, I'm hoping that sheer sample size will take care of most of these problems. Those 2 guys in that thread could just be outliers. I'm sure the bell curve would look very different if it was a sample size of 100 or 500 climbers.

Ben Ambrose wrote:Just registered... Absolutely love this idea. Just a suggestion: instead of a basic 1-5 scale could you possibly do 1 for comfort 1 for performance 1 for rubber stickyness or something...just an idea. Either ready, love this idea. Thanks for making it.

Thanks for the suggestions and thank for signing up!

Like how others have mentioned about toebox shape, something like high arches, width of feet, and heel width would definitely improve comparison

Just bumping because I think this is a great idea. If you looked at this when it was new, worth checking back on it now.

Ultimately, I think the most useful thing is just looking at the shoes other people own, you can then try to make a decision from that. Even if you ask people to rate the size of the toe box, people suck at such highly subjective measurements.

My only suggestion is letting me see all the users with pairs of shoes relevant to me, rather than just one. Like, there has to be more than one person with moccs and TC pros, but only one person has exactly my size moccs so I only get one data point. I'd also be interested in how the guy with moccs a half size up from me sized his TCs.

Anyway, keep up the good work

Would be cool to be able to sort on profiles shoes by brand or style (ex. downturned)

Also throwing a bunch more shoes on my profile

NorCalNomad wrote:Would be cool to be able to sort on profiles shoes by brand or style (ex. downturned) Also throwing a bunch more shoes on my profile

Thanks for the feedback! You're talking about just sorting the shoes on your profile? That sounds cool, I'll add it in the future

I'm sure there is a big queue of features or suggestions but here is mine: I'd like to be able to see all my "best shoe buddies" (people with same model in same size) instead of just 1.

This is fantastic!

Would be ***really*** helpful to have feedback on the 'mean/median' n sizes of 'stretch' that a climber experiences once shoe has been broken in...

Like I choose that I climb with Miura VCS on your site then I have follow up question asking: how many sizes do you feel like the shoe stretched once broken in?

Eg: choose sized 41.5, feel once broken in it stretched to a 42.

Think this could add some powerful data!

Great suggestions. I've added them to the list!

I'm not a social scientist, but I feel like you should give people points for each shoe they add, and extra points for the more information they add about each shoes. Then add a rank for everyone on the site, and by so doing, give people meaningless incentive to add more shoes/data.

I wanna be number oneeee

climbing friend,

you must prominently display the person's street shoe size of the profile you are looking at, yes?