SizeSquirrel - Climbing Shoe Sizing & Sales

Love this!
to throw my suggestion in, adding something about toe shape, ie
foot/toe shapes
might be a good way to let people add more info about their feet!
Thanks for doing this! I hope it grows!

Great idea! Thank you for all your hard work!

Thumbs up for the features you have and for the mismatch buddy idea someone mentioned earlier. I'd started a thread a while back ISO my shoe soul mate who could trade one shoe with me.

One thing that might be an issue is mens vs. womens in street shoe size. I put in my street shoe size as 7.5 and it reads as 40 Euro. In euro sizing I'm a 37 or 38. I guess it was reading men's 7.5?

MelRock wrote:Great idea! Thank you for all your hard work! Thumbs up for the features you have and for the mismatch buddy idea someone mentioned earlier. I'd started a thread a while back ISO my shoe soul mate who could trade one shoe with me. One thing that might be an issue is mens vs. womens in street shoe size. I put in my street shoe size as 7.5 and it reads as 40 Euro. In euro sizing I'm a 37 or 38. I guess it was reading men's 7.5?

Bah! you're absolutely right, it is doing mens sizing. I'll come up with a solution to this.... Sorry about that. For now, enter your street size as your Eur size, and it should give you something a little more accurate across the board.

Derrick wrote:Love this! to throw my suggestion in, adding something about toe shape, ie foot/toe shapes might be a good way to let people add more info about their feet! Thanks for doing this! I hope it grows!

Thanks for the suggestion, a couple of people have suggested this. It's on my list for future features, but dont expect it any time soon.

Derrick wrote:Love this! to throw my suggestion in, adding something about toe shape, ie foot/toe shapes might be a good way to let people add more info about their feet! Thanks for doing this! I hope it grows!

This would be a great addition actually - knowing if your foot is the same shape as a certain shoe goes a long way to determining how they will fit.

Eddie, It's not a big deal - you might be able to get away with just clarifying that street sizing is Euro/Men sizing. I have a pair of 5.10 men's approach shoes, so I know I wear a men's 5.5. I also know from borrowing my kids shoes that Girl 6.0 is bigger than Women's 7.0. Sizing in shoes (and clothes) is absolutely crazy.

I love the idea but haven't been able to get any of my current shoes (like, five different 5.10 models) to match to the two scarpa shoes I"m interested in.

Doesn't work for me. I get...

"We just don't have enough data to find a match! Here are some things you can do to help:

Register for an account and fill out your profile.
Like us on Facebook
Tell your friends about SizeSquirrel.
Let everyone at your climbing gym know.
Shout it at the crag.
Tell your enemies about SizeSquirrel."

Sounds like they just want to get my email or FaceBook like to spam me. I'm a skeptic. There is no viable alternative to trying on climbing shoes. Every foot is different. I find my sizes vary greatly even within the same brand. Unless you live in Middle-of-Nowhere Nebraska you are better off going to your local climbing store/gym/REI and trying on the shoes.

What a cool idea for a site!

I didn't read through all of the comments, so this may have been brought up, but it would be really nice to have a collection on longevity vs. wear and tear. (ex: I climb x number of times a week- shoe lasted x days) Since this can be impacted by over-sizing (a big oversight from new climbers), it could be nice to match shoe sizing with foot sizing to see if this was indeed a factor of over-sizing of more general quality.

I feel some shoes wear out faster than others- so this would only be for store bought shoes before a resole- since rubber type also plays a factor-

Another category could cover how many re-soles a shoe can handle on average...to help facilitate in a shoe buying decision.

Oh man, the possibilities!

Brian wrote:Doesn't work for me. I get... "We just don't have enough data to find a match! Here are some things you can do to help: Register for an account and fill out your profile. Like us on Facebook Tell your friends about SizeSquirrel. Let everyone at your climbing gym know. Shout it at the crag. Tell your enemies about SizeSquirrel." Sounds like they just want to get my email or FaceBook like to spam me. I'm a skeptic. There is no viable alternative to trying on climbing shoes. Every foot is different. I find my sizes vary greatly even within the same brand. Unless you live in Middle-of-Nowhere Nebraska you are better off going to your local climbing store/gym/REI and trying on the shoes.

Hey Brian thanks for the feedback. Sorry you're so hesitant to sign up. Unfortunately because the site is driven by user information I would like to incentivize people to signup and make accounts. If you do have a profile with shoes you'll have a much higher chance of finding a match and get access to a bunch of features which you wouldn't have as a non registered user.

What am I going to do with your email? I'll probably send out a newsletter at some point, limited to 1 email a month, hopefully you'll find it somewhat interesting.

But I understand your hesitation still. Feel free to register with a fake email, and fake name.

Rob D. wrote:I love the idea but haven't been able to get any of my current shoes (like, five different 5.10 models) to match to the two scarpa shoes I"m interested in.

Thanks Rob. Sorry you can't find a match. I'm improving the matching algorithm and as more people sign up it'll be easier to find a match. Tell your friends to sign up :)

Doesn't work for me. I get... "We just don't have enough data to find a match!

Sounds like THEY just want to get my email or FaceBook like to spam me. I'm a skeptic. There is no viable alternative to trying on climbing shoes. Every foot is different. I find my sizes vary greatly even within the same brand. Unless you live in Middle-of-Nowhere Nebraska you are better off going to your local climbing store/gym/REI and trying on the shoes.

Brian - This site is a work in progress and I am sure if you contribute, whether that is helping Eddie work out the kinks or by adding your shoes, it would be greatly appreciated.

As far as "THEY", They is he, Eddie F. and I highly doubt he is taking time and energy away from his "real" life just to get your email or Facebook like.

As far as all feet being different, yes that is true but not all climbing shoes are different. Sure, physically trying shoes on is obviously the best option when testing the fit of new shoes but this could be a very helpful tool when switching between similar shoes from different manufacturers or switching between different styles from the same manufacturer. Who knows maybe this thing will get super dialed and become a very reliable way to buy shoes sight unseen.

Eddie Ferrer wrote: Unfortunately because the site is driven by user information I would like to incentivize people to signup and make accounts. If you do have a profile with shoes you'll have a much higher chance of finding a match and get access to a bunch of features which you wouldn't have as a non registered user. .

wait wait wait.... so if you don't have an account the algorithm won't help you find a match, but if you're registered it will? It seems like you should make that much clearer. I hope that I'm reading your post wrong, because if what you are doing is blocking results for non-users, then you should make that much clearer. I don't have much use for a shoe sizing website other than a cursory "I wonder what size shoe compares between x and y" and have very little interest in creating and account or being part of a "community" that just inputs shoe data. I was excited to try your site, but if you are intentionally blocking the functionality to non-users then you should at least be up front about it and not let them search without an account.

Rob D. wrote: wait wait wait.... so if you don't have an account the algorithm won't help you find a match, but if you're registered it will? It seems like you should make that much clearer. I hope that I'm reading your post wrong, because if what you are doing is blocking results for non-users, then you should make that much clearer. I don't have much use for a shoe sizing website other than a cursory "I wonder what size shoe compares between x and y" and have very little interest in creating and account or being part of a "community" that just inputs shoe data. I was excited to try your site, but if you are intentionally blocking the functionality to non-users then you should at least be up front about it and not let them search without an account.

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Its a government conspiracy.

Can you add European sizes? It seems like there might be inconsistencies in conversion charts from Euro to US sizes. Most of my recent shoes are Euro sizes.

Thanks!

Jaya Smith wrote:Can you add European sizes? It seems like there might be inconsistencies in conversion charts from Euro to US sizes. Most of my recent shoes are Euro sizes. Thanks!

Scroll down further, the euro sizes were there. I entered my street shoe size as euro.

Found em', thanks!

Rob D. wrote: wait wait wait.... so if you don't have an account the algorithm won't help you find a match, but if you're registered it will? It seems like you should make that much clearer. I hope that I'm reading your post wrong, because if what you are doing is blocking results for non-users, then you should make that much clearer. I don't have much use for a shoe sizing website other than a cursory "I wonder what size shoe compares between x and y" and have very little interest in creating and account or being part of a "community" that just inputs shoe data. I was excited to try your site, but if you are intentionally blocking the functionality to non-users then you should at least be up front about it and not let them search without an account.

Let me be clearer.

If you're not registered it uses a simpler matching algorithm (because I only have information for a single shoe that you have).

If you are registered and fill out your profile with multiple shoes, then it uses all of your shoes to try to find a match instead of a single shoe.

Eddie Ferrer wrote: Let me be clearer. If you're not registered it uses a simpler matching algorithm (because I only have information for a single shoe that you have). If you are registered and fill out your profile with multiple shoes, then it uses all of your shoes to try to find a match instead of a single shoe.

is there a reason to not have more shoe options for non-registered users? I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but I don't see myself (or many other people) registering for a site they plan to use once especially if it doesn't work the first time they try it. Had it given me a result when i was trying to get one the first time, I might have registered. However since the whole point of the website is to compare different shoes/shoe sizing, the fact that the one job the website had, it failed at, didn't make me go "oh, since this doesn't work I will sign up for the site!" If you can make the site work when you input many shoes for registered users, why can't you make it work if you enter multiple shoes for unregistered users?

Rob D. wrote: is there a reason to not have more shoe options for non-registered users? I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but I don't see myself (or many other people) registering for a site they plan to use once especially if it doesn't work the first time they try it. Had it given me a result when i was trying to get one the first time, I might have registered. However since the whole point of the website is to compare different shoes/shoe sizing, the fact that the one job the website had, it failed at, didn't make me go "oh, since this doesn't work I will sign up for the site!" If you can make the site work when you input many shoes for registered users, why can't you make it work if you enter multiple shoes for unregistered users?

Not rude at all Rob, I appreciate the feedback and concern. There are several reasons for this behavior:

- From a user interface/design perspective I think it would be cumbersome to input many shoes and sizes, specially as features expand. So now you're searching for the shoe, then selecting size, and fit. Some people have 10+ shoes... If you leave the site and ever come back you'll have to add all those shoes again.

- The site literally does not work without user data. While I dont mind offering simple matching for unregistered users. Everybody wins when users sign up and fill out their profile.

Hopefully as the site grows and features are added you might find reasons to use it more than once. Personally I love having my profile as a reminder of what sizes I wear...