Attempt Instead of Tick

So I am somebody who loves numbers and stats and who compulsively ticks their climbs on Mountain Project and likes to know how many routes I do in a year, month, session, etc.

What I would like to see is an addition to the tick feature is something where you can "tick" - or make note of a climb that you either got up but fell (hang dogged) or didn't finish. The reason why I would like to see this is because I feel that it would make it easier to track my progress. For example it would be cool to see that on March 5th I had to bail off my project on the 5th bolt, but March 15th I clipped the chains but with 2 falls, and then I sent on April 2nd. For my own purposes I tick climbs that I got to the chains (or topped out a boulder) even if I fell and then I make a note in the comments about how many falls if any. Especially for bouldering days I might go out and work 5 different problems and send 1 or maybe nothing. I think it would be cool to be able to see how many climbs I'm attempting.

Would this be useful for anybody else?

I know there is now an option for "fell/hung" in the new tick-list which is awesome. I'm wondering about a feature where you didn't get to the top and still want to mark that you tried it and how far you got.

I would also like something like this but how would it affect the tick breakdown? Would we get extra pitches counted even though we only did say for instance a quarter of the route?

Personally, I don't like to see the page cluttered with hangdog attempts. It's even worse when those users suggest a grade after climbing bolt to bolt. I think an offline word doc or spreadsheet is the way to keep a personal record, with actual sends being recorded here. Part of this I realize is personal preference, but part of it is being able to fairly judge the ability of a potential new partner here. A user can come across as a 13 climber if they record all attempts, but may only be sending a number grade lower at best. I just prefer an honest tick list. That being said, if there was a way to filter, that could alleviate the problem.

BryanE wrote:So I am somebody who loves numbers and stats and who compulsively ticks their climbs on Mountain Project and likes to know how many routes I do in a year, month, session, etc. What I would like to see is an addition to the tick feature is something where you can "tick" - or make note of a climb that you either got up but fell (hang dogged) or didn't finish. The reason why I would like to see this is because I feel that it would make it easier to track my progress. For example it would be cool to see that on March 5th I had to bail off my project on the 5th bolt, but March 15th I clipped the chains but with 2 falls, and then I sent on April 2nd. For my own purposes I tick climbs that I got to the chains (or topped out a boulder) even if I fell and then I make a note in the comments about how many falls if any. Especially for bouldering days I might go out and work 5 different problems and send 1 or maybe nothing. I think it would be cool to be able to see how many climbs I'm attempting. Would this be useful for anybody else? I know there is now an option for "fell/hung" in the new tick-list which is awesome. I'm wondering about a feature where you didn't get to the top and still want to mark that you tried it and how far you got.

You can just use the comments box for that. Just mark it as "fell/hung", and then in the comments you can put "bailed at the 4th bolt after 37 falls" or something like that. I, like you, like to record all the climbs I do, but I make sure to put a note in each one to clarify what style I climbed it in.

Yeah. It's an honor's system, at best. For all you know, people could be ticking climbs they didn't even touch...I wouldn't use it as a metric for evaluating future partners (particularly because somebody could be a strong climber but terrible belayer, which does happen). Ultimately, I say use it as it works for you and don't worry about how other people use the site.

I'd like something like this as well. I only use MP to track my progress, so there are several climbing trips that MP doesn't count as days climbing because I have no ticks from those days. An "attempt" option doesn't add much clutter, and it might actually give a more realistic picture of the climbers who use it. For instance, if I have a bunch of ticks and no attempts from my last several climbing trips, that's a nice visual cue for me to try something harder next time out; I'm not pushing myself hard enough.

I have a [probably over the top] Microsoft Access/Excel tracking and plotting system. It allows for tracking of OS, Flash, Redpoint, Send/Falls, TR, and Repeat. PM me if you're interested.

Note: Microsoft got rid of charting capability within Access in version 2016. However, it does allow data links to Excel, which does a much nicer job of plotting. Access still excels at housing the data and setting up queries.

Charlie S wrote:I have a [probably over the top] Microsoft Access/Excel tracking and plotting system.

+1 for Charlie's tracking system. I downloaded it from another forum a year or so ago and it's super impressive, and totally nerdy. Trust me, I'm probably just as analytical in my tracking as anyone, but I just don't see value in recording attempts in a public forum. I also put a lot of stock into offering (and reviewing others') realistic suggestions on grades, and I firmly believe that no grade suggestions should be made until a route is sent. You never know until the deed is done.

Yeah, I guess I'm bummed if I go on a trip and send nothing (and therefore don't get to tick any routes), but I guess that's more motivating for me to try harder next time and/or reassess my goal planning process! You can use a spreadsheet like Charlie's and be as analytical as you like while maintaining a "cleaner" online database. Likely a pipe dream, but my $0.02.