Static Line for Top Roping
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Okay or not okay? |
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I'm happy top roping on static, though would prefer semistatic(1) |
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This is what I have. Used for haul line. But considering for TR. |
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Never had a problem with it. Note that if you're belaying at the bottom, as most folks prefer, even a fall at the top doesn't generate a large fall factor. And if the crux is just off the ground, a static can be the key to avoiding an ankle injury. Heavy climbers know what I'm talking about. |
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Would basically be like climbing at the gym... |
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I like it better than a TR with dynamic ropes |
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Jeff0 wrote:With attentive belaying, I'm thinking this is okay. You tell me.That's the key. How much do you trust the belayer? |
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I am actually the belayer. :) |
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Depends on what you are top roping and how well the person belays. I have seen some really bad belayers let some people take 20ft+ fall on top rope. |
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Go for it. This is a standard set up in the gym. And, saving $200 to risk your life may be one of the more ridiculous posts I've seen here. A decently attentive belayer and this is totally safe. |
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Kyle Edmondson wrote:Go for it. This is a standard set up in the gym. And, saving $200 to risk your life may be one of the more ridiculous posts I've seen here. A decently attentive belayer and this is totally safe.You know the number of people who die every year from a 1 in 100000 chance of something to happen? Sure it is probably going to be fine but all it takes is 1 mistake and you are dead. Why risk it for 200$? |
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First because it's not even obvious that it's more dangerous with the static rope. Second even if the increased risk of death really were 1/100,000, it doesn't seem totally unreasonable to think that this is actually not worth $200. You get about 25,000 days to live, so a 1/100,000 chance of death robs you of an expected 1/4 day. If an extra $200 makes one of those days twice as good, it doesn't seem like such a bad bet. It's not obvious to me that a 1/100,000 chance isn't worth spending $200 to mitigate, but it doesn't seem like a clear-cut case that it is either. |
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ViperScale wrote: You know the number of people who die every year from a 1 in 100000 chance of something to happen? Sure it is probably going to be fine but all it takes is 1 mistake and you are dead. Why risk it for 200$?This calculation also implies that each individual life is worth $20 million, which seems kind of high for many of us on MP. |
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Sounds solid to me less people at the crag go for it. |
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ladies and gentlemen....let's all take a breath, step out of the circle...yada yada. |
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Elongation indeed. I believe some folks think static rope is a steel cable.
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Its fine safety wise, but it might be a bit less than comfortable if the kid takes a large fall (like a little bit of slack + a dyno). I'd make sure whatever harnesses you have for the kids are really comfy. Other than that, have fun and make sure the little guys have the time of their life! |
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Yeah. My kid doesn't dyno...ever. Totally methodical. Unreal actually. He loves it. Weve now installed a few holds and a bolt hanger on his bed for practice. :) |
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Ted Pinson wrote:Would basically be like climbing at the gym...This should have been the end of this thread: case closed |