worst sport crags in US.

+1 for riverside quarry
that place is a piece of sh*t

Csproul: I remember posting about loose bolted anchors, about two to three years ago. So, last time I was there, a month ago, I see a guy almost deck. He was near the fourth bolt, on some harder sport climb in the amphitheater. No reason he should have ended up four feet off of the ground.

I don't know if I'll ever go back to pilot, but where else do you bring new people??

I seriously think something is going to happen at pilot, eventually. Clipping spinners,telling your belayer, "Nah bra, there supposed to spin!", !?!?!?

Do I have to join the CCC?

Rick Blair wrote: Only a spoiled Colorado climber would say this. Awesome winter crag and despite Coors industry there are mountains and mesa's surrounding the area. The rock is also mostly solid. Decent place for trad and aid practice as well. Not to mention partly owned by the Access Fund. How about wildlife? Deer, big cats, coyotes all sorts of raptors. Have you read about these other areas posted about? Nothing on N. Table compares to that on its worst day.

and bolted by a drunken 5 year old to boot...

I love that someone mentions kila in Montana! Haha it's the best kalispell has got close

Tylerpratt wrote:Stover in PA. People get hurt there all the time. The routes constantly change because they are always falling apart. People constantly throw shit off the top. Its dirt and basically shale. When I lived in Central NJ it was referred to as the Stover Shit Pile.

I don't think this really qualifies. Stover is neither sport climbing nor even technically rock climbing. It's really just mud wresting.

chris_vultaggio wrote:I've climbed Seward, and found that Birdsboro PA blows it away in terms of sh*tty rock and poor aesthetic. Toss in poison ivy and lyme disease and you've got a total winner with Birdsboro.

yes yes yes. To add the slimy rock regardless of the season, hollow sounding holds and the poor epoxy jobs abound. I used to keep a wrench on my harness and made a habit of turning the bolts before i'd clip them. Sorry Birdsboro!

Another vote for Stover. There are better places in PA and elsewhere.

Thanks, gblauer and whoever first mentioned it.

Rick Blair wrote: Only a spoiled Colorado climber would say this. Awesome winter crag and despite Coors industry there are mountains and mesa's surrounding the area. The rock is also mostly solid. Decent place for trad and aid practice as well. Not to mention partly owned by the Access Fund. How about wildlife? Deer, big cats, coyotes all sorts of raptors. Have you read about these other areas posted about? Nothing on N. Table compares to that on its worst day.

As I said in my original post, it would probably be 4 star out east. Having only climbed in the west, it's the worst crag I've ever been to. Yeah, WE are spoiled in Colorado, amazing that of all the incredible places to climb in the state that anyone goes to table.

Eric8 wrote:Rumney on a weekend?

No way. Even when it is crowded you can almost always find a place away from the madness if you know the area. Step a little way into the boulders and you can be completely away from everybody. The crowds do get to me sometimes, but the interesting climbing makes up for it. I just move on to the next crag when the hordes arrive and the chaos builds.

tim wrote: As I said in my original post, it would probably be 4 star out east. Having only climbed in the west, it's the worst crag I've ever been to. Yeah, WE are spoiled in Colorado, amazing that of all the incredible places to climb in the state that anyone goes to table.

I don't think you can be so smug about east vs west (I know you are probably half joking). I have been to a few supposed "world class" western areas that I thought were disappointing piles (mostly because of the way they were developed). Because they are often in the trees, it is harder to get impressive photos of a lot of eastern crags compared to the more open west, but there is plenty of fantastic climbing, so you probably shouldn't attempt to compare until you have taken a few trips to the Red, New, North Carolina, New York and New England.

Don't have pics, but one of the hazards at Pigeon Point in Northern California is large appliances being thrown from the top. Really. And at least once, a car. What do you scream, "rock!" or just "refrigerator". The rock is OK, but the garbage at the base is....telling. Frightening.

Birdsboro is the worst sport crag I've visited. People have summed it up pretty well so far.

No love for the bird, fuck that place. Stover is fun even though it is premium choss.

Be Esperanza wrote:Vantage in WA gets my vote

While not a top notch crag, how is this a "worst sport crag in US"? Vantage is often the only climbable place in WA winter, and has some pretty darn fun routes. Plus, if you bring your rack, there are some classics like Tangled Up in Blue, Air Guitar, etc.

M Sprague wrote: I don't think you can be so smug about east vs west (I know you are probably half joking). I have been to a few supposed "world class" western areas that I thought were disappointing piles (mostly because of the way they were developed). Because they are often in the trees, it is harder to get impressive photos of a lot of eastern crags compared to the more open west, but there is plenty of fantastic climbing, so you probably shouldn't attempt to compare until you have taken a few trips to the Red, New, North Carolina, New York and New England.

I'm sure you're right. Out of curiosity, what world class western area is a pile?

RandyR wrote: While not a top notch crag, how is this a "worst sport crag in US"? Vantage is often the only climbable place in WA winter, and has some pretty darn fun routes. Plus, if you bring your rack, there are some classics like Tangled Up in Blue, Air Guitar, etc.

Not to mention stems & seeds, george & martha, sinsemilla, and some excellent hard sport and trad routes at the Middle East wall, plus no crowds on winter weekdays and t-shirts in January, free decent camping, and an excellent view. Portable holds are a downside and on spring weekends the place is a horrifying gong show but I've been to much worse, even in Washington (exit 38, in my book).

Ill throw a vote in for birdsboro.

Paul Hutton wrote:LA Pagoda in Sicily. Cliff Drive in KC,MO.

Well done that man!!! La Pagoda makes it to the top of our list. The worst place my brother and I have ever visited in nearly a combined century of climbing.

Rifle

Another vote for Riverside Quarry. Dirty, trashy, manufactured routes all in the middle of a dump (literally, there is trash everywhere).