Fiveten Quantum vs Verdon

I know the Verdon is still pretty new and the Quantum just came out, but from their website I am having a hard time telling the difference between these two. They both are lace up shoes with C4 rubber, an asymmetrical last and stiff midsole and the same lining and tongue. What am I missing?

looking at their website
5.10 quantum is under ''Aggressive''

5.10 verdon is under ''Moderate''

thats the difference

Those categories are slightly misleading. The Verdon is stiffer, and is designed more for overhung, edgy, or pockety climbing, like what you find at Verdon: mountainproject.com/v/gorge…

The Quantum is for all-day hard climbing, like a free climb of NIAD. Slightly softer and more sensitive.

Do either of these improve on the breathability of the Anasazi VCS? Sometimes I can lose traction in the Anasazi from them getting slick inside, not to mention the stench.

I have a pair of the Verdons and they do breath pretty well and I don't fell like the inside gets as slick and slippery inside as they do in my Anasazi VCS. The Verdon is seriously the MOST COMFORTABLE shoe I have ever worn. If you do get a pair then size them .5 down for comfort and 1 size down for performance, which is still pretty comfy.

It's the toe on the Verdon extremely pointed?

The original quantum, the purple ones, are the lace up version of the arrowhead. I think they called it the new Anasazi last when it came out. Basically a downturned Anasazi. My gf swears by them, and she loves overhanging sport climbing. When I talked to the local FiveTen rep about the new quantum he said they made the heel a bit better and the overall fit better. Basically he said it was the same shoe with better fit.

The verdon is a stiff edging shoe from what I gather. I tried them on but they didn't fit my foot very well, especially the heel. Sticking with my blancos for now.

JJNS wrote:It's the toe on the Verdon extremely pointed?

Yes it is but not as pointy as the solution for instance. The toe box feels wide for me and my toes don't feel squished into a point. I would not want to use this shoe for aggressive heel hooking but love it for when
I need a edging tool.

Eric, are you suggesting sizing down .5 from street shoe or from the Anasazi VCS? I size down .5 from street for the Anasazi VCS, which gives a pretty comfortable fit, although not tight enough for serious heel hooking. My problem with the VCS beyond the lack of breathability is the lack of stiffness in the sole for an all-day shoe.

Thanks!

Owen Witesman wrote:Eric, are you suggesting sizing down .5 from street shoe or from the Anasazi VCS? I size down .5 from street for the Anasazi VCS, which gives a pretty comfortable fit, although not tight enough for serious heel hooking. My problem with the VCS beyond the lack of breathability is the lack of stiffness in the sole for an all-day shoe. Thanks!

I loved the shoe so much I actually got two pairs, the VCS Verdon I sized down only .5 from my street shoe and I use it as my granite/mulitpitch shoe. If you have a tall instep and generally fat foot, I think .5 down will work very well in the VCS. I need a wide toe box but don't generally have a high volume foot. So although the .5 down does work, I need to really tighten the straps when I need real edging power. This seems to work great for multi pitch since I can strap them loose for the majority of the climb, then strap them tight for cruxes. I just climbed a 4 pitch 5.11 at Index WA yesterday and my feet felt great the whole time! On edges and in cracks. I only took them off for the rappels and that was actually unnecessary since it would have probably been more comfortable to wear the shoes while rappelling instead of doing it barefoot.

I have a pair of Verdon lace, 1 size down from my street shoe. I got this shoe specifically for hard edging routes (5.13 at Smith) and they are everything I wanted in a shoe. I have never felt such confidence in Smith edges. I was only there for two days but I truly felt like they provided next level edging ability and comfort at the same time. I like the lace for single pitch since when I am climbing my hardest I want to be able to really fine tune the fit. Again, I cannot overstate how comfortable this shoe is as well, even when its tightened down VERY tight. I could not imagine needing a stiffer shoe or a more down tuned shoe for the my intended needs.

I have a pair of size 9 lace up Verdon shoes for sale for $115 shipped. Verdon's (laceups) for sale. I wore them for a single route in Red Rocks and I just didn't think they fit my foot correctly. They are nearly new, in the original box with all the packaging.