Fixed Rope Taken Off Trick Are For Kids

I recently fixed a static rope on Tricks are for Kids (about two weeks ago) so I could work on it, and for some reason someone decided to take it some time within the last week. If anyone knows who took it I would appreciate getting it back along with the slings and biners that were at the anchor.

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Maybe it was in the way of the photo?

It was fixed to the anchor bolts with separate slings and biners so the rap rings would be open for others to use. It would of also made taking photos easier since no one would have to hang a rope for the photographer and he/she could just pull up the tail end after they jugged just like any photo shoot.

That's the risk you take when you leave gear unattended for a week, yeah it sucks but why are people continually surprised by this? You probably won't ever see your gear again, hopefully it's taught you a lesson.

Hope it was not stolen and the rope is returned to the owner.

yesrodcire wrote:That's the risk you take when you leave gear unattended for a week, yeah it sucks but why are people continually surprised by this? You probably won't ever see your gear again, hopefully it's taught you a lesson.

On. Fu#&ing. Point.

Dylan B. wrote:I see evidence of neither surprise nor complaint in the original OP. Hopefully this unfortunate incident will not cause the OP to loose faith in people and become a judgmental cynic like so many others. I hope you get your gear back.

I guess when someone uses "for some reason" in a sentence, that sounds like they were surprised to me. Also, I sincerely hope he doesn't get his gear back. A fixed rope for 2 weeks in the Redd's backyard? Little thought went into this. Except that he "wanted to work it". (end rant) Carry on.

The Tricks wall is rarely visited and locals hanging fixed lines on hard routes that seldom get climbed is not that uncommon in this area. The Tricks wall is also not visible from the ranch as opposed to other areas such as right Reservoir Wall and many other walls that surround their property. There are no lessons to be learned here, only confirmation that there are all to many self-righteous @sshole climbers out there and most of them are armchair warriors posting on this site. Write what you want, I'm just attempting to get my rope back and as the saying goes, opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one. Have fun with your bitching session.

Your fixed line was hanging on the back of the message board at the Bridger Jack toilet on the 23rd when I was there. The slings and biners were hanging with it, along with a penned message that said something to the tune of, "You wouldn't fix a line on Incredible, don't do it to other classics."

Hope you get your shit back.

Thanks rileyrice

Did ya learn anything Steve? Doesn't sound like it... Dont make the same post a year from now when you leave your gear unattended again.

Also saw it at Bridger Jack board with slings and biners. Also found my friends missing license plate there, people can be ok.

Silly rabbit

Steven Lucarelli wrote:The Tricks wall is rarely visited and locals hanging fixed lines on hard routes that seldom get climbed is not that uncommon in this area.

There are many things in our society that are "not that uncommon", but are still appalling..

Steven Lucarelli wrote: There are no lessons to be learned here, only confirmation that there are all to many self-righteous @sshole climbers out there

To say there are no lessons to be learned and then continue with the lesson you learned shows your kind of special ness. Glad someone took your junk off the wall. Not so glad you got it back. Self righteous people like you will do it again.

OOOOO, my life is sooooo important that I can hang a rope on public land as long as I want. My send is sooooo important.

Get a grip Steven. I used to like you. But now I'm unimpressed...

why do people say "the Redd's" like they are personal friends of theirs? And, Tricks are for Kids is not in, or practically in, their backyard. It's down the road and around a significant bend. I do think we should respect their private property and their needs, but they do choose to live within a extremely popular BLM recreation area, not to mention being withing spitting distance to a very highly trafficked National Park. And while we are practicing our hobby near their farm, they are grazing their cattle - which they are raising for profit, on land that we as citizens all own.

Most likely, someone wanted to send Trick without the rope hanging and you will get it back soon.

Fixed lines...such a tricky issue. So convenient for those that are using them (I've certainly loved them in the past). And such a eyesore, pain in the a$$, bummer for those who want want to challenge themselves in a beautiful place in the traditional style of our sport. Ground UP.

It's an issue we will deal with a lot as mini-tracking gains popularity. In what areas, at what times, and for how long is it o.k. to leave a fixed line? We need an ethicist!

I stand with folks who pulled the line. Class act. Removed it, stated their well-grounded reason, didn't steal it, left it in an obvious place.

powhound84 wrote: The kettle calling the pot black. This thread is awesome.

Pretty much.

Psyched that someone cleaned up the mess. It's a matter of being considerate to the rest of the community.

Bryan Gilmore wrote:why do people say "the Redd's" like they are personal friends of theirs? And, Tricks are for Kids is not in, or practically in, their backyard. It's down the road and around a significant bend. I do think we should respect their private property and their needs, but they do choose to live within a extremely popular BLM recreation area…

Probably bc said conversation took place on Heidi's back porch over margaritas. I wouldn't call them "personal friends", more family friends, but sorry if my choice of words annoyed you.

As to the location of Tricks, I was unaware, only had the old Marco guide that generally referred to the area as Paragon Prow and she mentioned climbers "looking down into the backyard from up there" when she noticed me looking at the cliff one day.

As for "…choose(ing) to live within an extremely popular BLM rec area", that's only the case bc of their donation to the Nature Conservancy years ago. They didn't own all the land, but without access to Donnelly(both crags their former private property), I doubt the rest of the corridor would be enjoying its current level of popularity. Going out of your way to be courteous to a landowner like that seems like a pretty small sacrifice.

Bryan Gilmore wrote:I do think we should respect their private property and their needs, but they do choose to live within a extremely popular BLM recreation area, not to mention being withing spitting distance to a very highly trafficked National Park. And while we are practicing our hobby near their farm, they are grazing their cattle - which they are raising for profit, on land that we as citizens all own.

Whoa, the incorrect is strong with these statements.

Pnelson wrote: Whoa, the incorrect is strong with these statements.

What part of my statement is incorrect? I mention respecting their private property, their choice to live surrounded by BLM in a state that is over 40% BLM and is know for being extremely pro-outdoor recreation. I also acknowledge that we are "hobbyists" and they are trying to be ranchers (can-O-worms) in an extremely arid/barren location (ahem!), but I digress. And, maybe "for profit" is a bit of a stretch, but they are perpetuating their own agenda and that of the Nature Conservancy. I fail to see how a climber leaving a rope hanging from one of the least popular cliffs in the creek is a problem for them. Comence hurling...

I think this thread was useful in identifying shitty people. Interestingly, it had nothing to do with those that I agreed with, just who were shitty.

FWIW, I mini-traxed at IC a few times. Once you set a solid anchor, it takes about 20 minutes to cam jug a route. If it's a splitter that hardly varies in size, it's even smoother. Even from Moab, a trip out there is most of a day, I just can't see the time saved to have a fixed rope being worth the risk of leaving it out.

I'm not judging the OP, he's a good guy whom I hear makes great quesadilla's, two weeks does seem a little long in the high season though.