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Black Diamond Carabiner Recall
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Chinese companies and manufacturers have a well deserved reputation for cutting corners and producing inferior products. Even Chinese nationals recognise this, with the richer Chinese turning to other country's for simple products like baby formula. |
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QC job openings(?) bump. |
patto wrote:Chinese companies and manufacturers have a well deserved reputation for cutting corners and producing inferior products. Even Chinese nationals recognise this, with the richer Chinese turning to other country's for simple products like baby formula. However equally so when the appropriate controls are in place there are plenty of high quality products that are manufactured in China. No doubt that when BD moved production to China they were very concerned about keeping quality control tight. Also, their manufacturing isn't in backwater China, it is Zhuhai which has MANY high quality big brand manufacturers. Meanwhile they've it seems they have dropped the ball back home. :-( They'll get their shit together though and as long as nobody gets hurt then all is good. I'll still wouldn't hesitate to buy BD gear. (Though personally I'm mostly a DMM and Totem guy.)Its called Learning Effect. BD gets to relearn some of its manufacturing in the US. |
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If anyone has one of them jacked up lockers with the screw gate upside down, I'll gladly replace it with a nice one if you want to trade :-). I saw one thelse other day, thought it was cool. Just want as anew ornament. |
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Is anyone else getting a strange, non-BD website when they try to get info? I followed the link from BD here: |
jonathan.lipkin wrote:Is anyone else getting a strange, non-BD website when they try to get info? I followed the link from BD here: blackdiamondequipment.com/e… and it lands here: warranty.bdel.com/Carabiner… which just looks like some weird bad search result/trollbdel = Black Diamond Equipment Ltd That URL showed the recall info in the past, their domain must have expired. I expect they'll have that fixed in a few days. |
jonathan.lipkin wrote:Is anyone else getting a strange, non-BD website when they try to get info? I followed the link from BD here: blackdiamondequipment.com/e… and it lands here: warranty.bdel.com/Carabiner… which just looks like some weird bad search result/trollDamn, looks like their recall service provider (or whatever you'd call it) let their domain expire and it was nabbed by a squatter. Well that sucks. According to its whois records, its ownership was updated today: Domain Name: BDEL.COM Registrar: ENOM, INC. Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 48 Whois Server: whois.enom.com Referral URL: enom.com Name Server: NS17.WORLDNIC.COM Name Server: NS18.WORLDNIC.COM Status: clientTransferProhibited icann.org/epp#clientTransfe… Updated Date: 11-mar-2016 Creation Date: 08-mar-1995 Expiration Date: 09-mar-2017 |
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It's back now... |
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Dang, I wish I had picked up that domain. I would've held it hostage until they gave me a lifetime pro-deal. |
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I'm not terribly familiar with how manufacturing codes work... |
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Do your biners have an "A" ahead of the number? All of mine do, so that's a different manufacturing batch. |
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For those who follow and aren't already aware/haven't been emailed... |
C Travis wrote:I'm not terribly familiar with how manufacturing codes work... - I assume there are [sizable] batches of carabiners that have the same number stamped on them (i.e. not unique numbers), correct? - I also assume that these numbers must eventually repeat. --> Over what period do such numbers repeat? - Is there any standardization/regulation to manufacturing codes or is it all self-imposed by company? I ask the second question because everything I see on BD's website discusses/depicts etched manufacturing codes. I have a few 'biners with numbers in that range which are stamped into the spine. Despite knowing full well it's been years since I purchased a BD 'biner (or any 'biner for that matter) I was impelled toward inspection (all good to go). Regardless, it got me wondering about the above questions regarding how these numbers work. Kudos and appreciation to anyone who has the knowledge and time to sate my curiosity. On a tangential note, while not personally affected by recalls to date, I have always been very impressed by the responsiveness of BD (and several other companies) to QC issues like this. Much respect to those who can admit fault and rectify quickly! Thanks BD!Some of BD's manufacturing numbers repeat every 10 years (first digit in the code is the last number of the year, etc). You aren't affected if you haven't bought anything in the last year or two. Anyone else worried about the parts on the cams that we can't inspect? If they keep screwing up obvious stuff like the rivets how do we know the swages and brazes covered by plastic are done correctly. Or the stitching or glue or whatever is holding the dyneema together on the new ultralights. |
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Check your cams, got a new once missing finished ends |
CRAG-list-KILLA wrote:Check your cams, got a new once missing finished endsCan u post a pic In the other thread folks claimed its only "1 in 10000" ;) |
C Travis wrote:I'm not terribly familiar with how manufacturing codes work... - I assume there are [sizable] batches of carabiners that have the same number stamped on them (i.e. not unique numbers), correct? - I also assume that these numbers must eventually repeat. --> Over what period do such numbers repeat? - Is there any standardization/regulation to manufacturing codes or is it all self-imposed by company? I ask the second question because everything I see on BD's website discusses/depicts etched manufacturing codes. I have a few 'biners with numbers in that range which are stamped into the spine. Despite knowing full well it's been years since I purchased a BD 'biner (or any 'biner for that matter) I was impelled toward inspection (all good to go). Regardless, it got me wondering about the above questions regarding how these numbers work. Kudos and appreciation to anyone who has the knowledge and time to sate my curiosity. On a tangential note, while not personally affected by recalls to date, I have always been very impressed by the responsiveness of BD (and several other companies) to QC issues like this. Much respect to those who can admit fault and rectify quickly! Thanks BD!It looks like the manufacturing code uses A as an identifier to mark where it was made, i.e. China or some sort of import mark. I am not sure about it. The rest is pretty straightforward. The first digit is the last digit of the year, i.e. 2014 = 4. The next three digits are the Julian date, or the day of the year numbered from 1-365. January 1st is 001, February 1st is 032, December 31st is 365 or 366 if a leap year. |
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It's on it's way to black diamon, I also have 2 rock lock carabiners that won't stayed screwed shut if you clap them together a couple times they unscrew themselves. Sending those in as well. Have 4 mini parabiners in the code range and they seem fine, scares the hell out of me tho |
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BD are looking for a Director of QA |
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climbing friend, |
