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1000 Classic Joshua Tree Routes - New Guide

Dow Williams · · St. George, Utah; Canmore, AB · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 240

In regards to Miramonte's books. The extra routes in his recently published 2nd edition are almost exclusively boulder problems. I don't think it was a great idea to combine a bouldering book with a climbing book just for bulk issues alone, but if one is looking for value, you do get two for one I guess. Makes for one big book to haul back to climb Bighorn Dihedral if you are not willing to tear out pages or prepared enough to copy in advance. Only a handful of new roped additions in the 2nd edition and none have stood out as must do climbs to me yet.

Big Horn Dihedral

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Randy, I can't wait for the Central Guide to come out. The West guide did a really great job of what is one of the toughest things about Josh - Navigating the maze of corridors, hidden formations and finding the routes.

It has helped me go back and do some very interesting climbs that I have been looking forward to climbing for years but failed to locate.

Thanks.

Kyle Wills · · Whidbey Island, WA · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 1,110

That big horn dihedral looks amazing! Someone needs to add that climb the database.

Josh Janes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2001 · Points: 9,999

Does it include all of the highest quality, most awesome routes no matter how obscure or remote they are? Or does it just focus on the 1000 that are most convenient to access or are concentrated near other routes?

Are the Underground Chasm routes in there?

I currently own Randy's big Falcon guide and the first edition of the Miramontes guide. I use the former for locating those obscurities and the latter for great beta and photos. Could this guide be a replacement for those two?

Randy · · Lassitude 33 · Joined Jan 2002 · Points: 1,279

Josh,
It does Not contain 1000 of the most awesome no matter where located. To do so, would require a much, much bigger book - to describe so many diverse, remote and widely spread crags and routes.

Instead, as you surmise, it does focus on the 1000 that are relatively easy to access (within a 45 minute hike or so) and/or are concentrated near other routes. And, like Josh West (or perhaps even more so) it give detailed approach and descent information, lacking in other guides.

So, 1000 Classics is probably not what you are looking for.

Josh Central will have tons of routes (great, good and the indifferent) and accurate and detailed approach and descent info for thousands of routes, many never reported before.

Josh Janes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2001 · Points: 9,999

Thanks Randy! Nevertheless - looks like a great book.

other · · San Diego, CA · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 15

Randy I have your JT WEST tome. Ive read the past posts and news about your JT Central color book coming out as the next volume in your three volume All of Josh collection. what is the ETA for JT CENTRAL and EAST?
Is your guide similar to Supertopos with the highly detailed gear lists and topo drawings/photo overlays?
thanks.

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

I just got this book. I like it, but wish it had route lengths on it. All-in-all, a well-done book. I look forward to Joshua Tree-Central, too.

Edit: The reason I like route lengths, is so I can decide if I want to do it. For example, I'd be less inclined to do a 35-40 foot route and more inclined to do a 90 foot route.

Roots · · Wherever I am · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 20

Randy thanks for all the hard work!

Randy · · Lassitude 33 · Joined Jan 2002 · Points: 1,279
FrankPS wrote: The reason I like route lengths, is so I can decide if I want to do it. For example, I'd be less inclined to do a 35-40 foot route and more inclined to do a 90 foot route.
Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I can understand that. While in most cases it should be pretty obvious how long (short) routes may be, it is something I will definitely add to this guide when it is redone (there are also a number of typo and other errors that need to be fixed as well).

I'm always interested in feedback and/or suggestions on ways to improve any of the guides.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Southern California
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