New Yosemite Free Climbs Select Guidebook Almost Done - Call for Photos!

Will S wrote: I am very, very close to removing every piece of info I've ever added here and ceasing to contribute anything here ever again.

OHHHHHHHH NOOOOOO!!!!! THE HORRRRRRRRROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But seriously, don't delete posts that aren't offensive, mod-brajs.

Erik Sloan wrote: It blows my mind to think how many more people have had a unique experience of El Cap because of the rope swing. I get comments, emails, and texts all the time with lines like 'It was the coolest thing I've ever done!' Go For It!

Absolutely love the rope swing. I was in Yosemite for the first time this year, and it was among the highlights. People who are hating on it are just looking for something to be annoyed about. I'd love to know how it hurts anyone (truth: it doesn't). It's there if you want it and if you don't, don't use it. How hard is that?

Hey Guys!

Cool thoughts. Hey if you want to start a Rope Swing thread, maybe that would be more appropriate.

The weather is perfect, the Big STones are shining gold. Go For It!

Woot!
Erik
erik@yosemitebigwall.com

Mike. wrote: A climber well known by LE in the Park for using a power dril, hand saw and come-along illegally also solicits donations to maintain an illegal fixed line that has nothing to do with climbing (which has been removed by LE at least once). Same guy proclaims to represent climbers in Yosemite. A climber supporting and engaging in illegal activity endangers the considerable freedoms we currently enjoy in YNP. Do that while thumbing your nose at the man and trying to convince yourself and others that an illegal rope swing is the same as climbing. That's how. Can we not work with YNPLE instead of in opposition? Who will win in the end? Not climbers.

Hearsay, conjecture and internet butthurters are gonna kill climbing in YNP if you ask me. Put your money where your mouth is Mike and quit whining, its making all of you supertopo _________ look like big p$%^ies.

Mike. wrote: trying to convince yourself and others that an illegal rope swing is the same as climbing.

Where on earth did I equate it to climbing? It's fun, and great off-day activity, and it literally harms nobody. Get off your high horse. I mean, seriously. Do you think the park doesn't already know it's there? Of course they do. They just don't care about it, because it isn't a big deal.

Greg Redlawsk wrote: They just don't care about it, because it isn't a big deal.

Two points, first NPS has taken it down in the past, which indicates that they DO care about it. Second, taking it down involves either jugging on an unknown quality of anchoring or integrity of the rope at the anchor, OR leading pitches of non-trivial aid climbing to access the anchor. So getting it down if you're not willing to jug a mystery rope/mystery set-up isn't like cutting a slackline at ground level*, it involves significant time and effort and some amount of risk.

• Which I've seen them do, while I protested..and I don't even slack line, but cutting the thing, in the dead center of it, and ruining the webbing seemed very vindictive to me, they could have waited an hour until the kids that set it up could take it down.

Will S wrote: Two points, first NPS has taken it down in the past, which indicates that they DO care about it.

Fair enough - I genuinely didn't know that.

SirTobyThe3rd wrote: the obese guy with the telescope lens is hibernating.

It's the jacket!!!

T Roper wrote:Hearsay, conjecture and internet butthurters are gonna kill climbing in YNP if you ask me. Put your money where your mouth is Mike and quit whining, its making all of you supertopo _________ look like big p$%^ies.

Erik Sloan wrote:You guys are so silly - nearly everyone putting up routes here(and I'm definitely not putting up routes here) is using power drills.

Quod erat faciendum, kids!

Ed Hartouni wrote: As for a timeline, I can assure Alexey that he will have the Comprehensive guidebook in his hand in time to do many sweet new climbs (and perhaps he can "read between the lines" for his own creations) long before he hangs up his climbing shoes. Beyond that I have no more details except my "to do" list gets noticeably shorter by the day (a major tick occurred last week that I think will make the final product even more awesome!).

I for one will be waiting for this Yosemite guidebook book.

Woot!

C. Holt wrote: I for one will be waiting for this Yosemite guidebook book.

LOL!

I pre ordered mybook. I would order Ed's too but ......

Hey,

I'm interested in pre-ordering or purchasing this book. Where may I do so?

Thx

Thanks!

RockClimbYosemite.com

For just a little while longer you can score this baby for 25% off! Order Today!

C. Holt wrote: I for one will be waiting for this Yosemite guidebook book. Woot!

You are going to grow old and die waiting for this book.

K Weber wrote: You are going to grow old and die waiting for this book.

Nah, it's getting closer.

Rob T wrote: So is the heat death of the universe. As to which will arrive first, have to ask Dr. H.

Meh. Dr. Hartouni has already addressed this.

Kent Richards wrote: Meh. Dr. Hartouni has already addressed this.

Link? Quote? As far as I remember, he said he got a lot of work done, but when asked for a ballpark time, it was just crickets.

divnamite wrote: Link? Quote? As far as I remember, he said he got a lot of work done, but when asked for a ballpark time, it was just crickets.

To clarify, I'm not saying Ed has given a specific timeline. I'm saying that he has addressed the question of whether the guidebook will come before the heat death of the universe, and (by inference) whether C. Holt and most other climbers will likely have the book in time for it to be useful:

Ed Hartouni wrote:As for a timeline, I can assure Alexey that he will have the Comprehensive guidebook in his hand in time to do many sweet new climbs (and perhaps he can "read between the lines" for his own creations) long before he hangs up his climbing shoes. Beyond that I have no more details except my "to do" list gets noticeably shorter by the day (a major tick occurred last week that I think will make the final product even more awesome!).

Beyond that, Eric Gable recently gave this status update :

ablegable wrote:For anybody who is interested, we are getting to the end of drawing new topos for the Comprehensive Yosemite Valley Free Climbing Book. So this is a last call for any new route information or topos, if you want to contribute them to the book. This isn't a locked in stone date, but we are going to be moving on to layout soon, and it gets harder to change things at that point. If we can fit it in we will.

Rob T wrote:...I'm always skeptical of timelines that don't include dates.

From people who are writing the guidebooks as a labor of love and not as a profession? In what amounts to essentially volunteer work?