Vedauwoo Rope?

I'm planning a trip to Vedauwoo. For the climbs I want to do, 60m and even 50m is way more rope than I need, so I'm considering bringing two 30m twins that are 8mm thick. Doubled up, I can do any necessary raps where walking off isn't an option.

But on that gritty granite, am I asking for trouble with such a thin rope? Do people often go twin or half out there, or does just about everyone use a single?

Having a 50/60m rope there is not a nuisance. I'd take a single over trying to manage doubles anyday. I've never seen anyone using doubles there.

Yeah, it doesn't strike me as a place doubles have any real value being as it's mostly crack climbing. Seems like they'd get in the way of your feet. If it's just for the raps, a single short rope and a short tag line would be better. But then you have to carry the tag line up, so why not just take a 50 or 60m?

is this a troll?

Yes, there is gritty rock at Vedauwoo.

However, most of the popular climbs are not gritty. The gritty won't do any more damage than usual wear and tear. The main problem is the same as any area - sharp edges or sharp flakes. Can't think of any on popular climbs that would be a problem.

I've been climbing there for over 40 years and never seen a double rope used. Many climbs follow single crack systems so a double doesn't provide much advantage.

Many of the rappel stations were put up when the standard rope length was 150' (45m), and some when only 120'(36m).

You might be able to get by with 30m ropes for some of the rappels, but then you would have to do 2 rappels when a 50m or 60m would get you down in one. You would have to check the guidebook for lengths of rappels on climbs that are on your tick list.

This is great. Twins, doubles, tag lines in the Voo! Don't forget to tie knots in the end of your ropes and auto blocks too!!

We used doubles there a few weeks ago while en route to the Winds. Pain in the butt if you ask me - a single would have been way more practical if we'd had one in the car.

Arlo F Niederer wrote:Yes, there is gritty rock at Vedauwoo. However, most of the popular climbs are not gritty. The gritty won't do any more damage than usual wear and tear. The main problem is the same as any area - sharp edges or sharp flakes. Can't think of any on popular climbs that would be a problem. I've been climbing there for over 40 years and never seen a double rope used. Many climbs follow single crack systems so a double doesn't provide much advantage. Many of the rappel stations were put up when the standard rope length was 150' (45m), and some when only 120'(36m). You might be able to get by with 30m ropes for some of the rappels, but then you would have to do 2 rappels when a 50m or 60m would get you down in one. You would have to check the guidebook for lengths of rappels on climbs that are on your tick list.