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Sierra bears??

Kevin Mokracek · · Burbank · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 342

Urinate on all windows and drop a deuce at all four sides of the car and you will be golden.

Vanilla Drilla From Manila · · Goiter, CO · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 50

Headded, I asked about rental insurance and bear break-ins. You responded with a serious fucking attitude problem and a goddamned chip on your shoulder about me calling ursa (blank) a 'bastard' with very little additional helpful info. Get over it and put your energy elsewhere. I know it may seem like I'm a total fucking newb from my mp ticklist, or whatever online metric you use to judge worthiness, but I've been at this crap for 12 years now. I've just heard several stories about car break-ins in the sierras (hey it happens). So fucking chill, bruh.

General consensus is that:
1) I am indeed an idiot who most likely deserves ever ridicule for insulting mother nature.
2) leaving a Pizza Hut pizza on my dash is no bueno.
3) pissing and shitting ALL OVER EVERYTHING I own is probably the safest option.
4) get the insurance
5) joe Crawford knows what I'm talking about and I value his remarks.
6) headed has a raw gooch and needs to climb harder and spend less time spraying about it on mp.
7) bush did 9/11

Anything else i missed?

SRB25 · · Woodside, ca · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 5

I can't believe people aren't shitting the bed over the rubber bullet comment.

Vanilla Drilla From Manila · · Goiter, CO · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 50

My buddy suggested a sympathy card for this sad looking feller?

Sad bear

ryan albery · · Cochise and Custer · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 290

If you already have auto insurance, check your policy. Usually it covers you for rental cars, so you don't need to buy the insurance.

Ryan Huetter · · Mammoth Lakes, CA · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 395

Now that everybody's panties are sufficiently wadded up, here is a bit of useful information:

1. At the parking lot, use the bear boxes. Although at some low trailheads (Taboose, Shepards for example) there have had bear break ins and they do not have bear boxes available.

2. In the BC, at least in SEKI NP, everywhere you go requires safe food storage. This does not mean that bear lockers or bear cans are required everywhere. Look at this map. Bear Can Map

Mostly the map has to do with a) large congregations of people with habituated bears in the area and/or b) lack of large trees for hanging.

On USFS (Inyo) land, very few areas require bear cans. I can think of only one, the area around Thousand Island Lakes.

Yosemite NP bear cans or lockers ARE required, everywhere in the park.

3. It might not matter if you have anything in your car or not. I live in bear habitat. I have had quite a few bear break ins in my truck with nothing inside. They simply know that if they open enough cars, they are going to hit the jackpot at least once.

Is the $200 worth it? Maybe, maybe not. Probably not to me. As long as you aren't a total idiot about it, the likelihood is pretty low. Plus, all those other folks at the TH have probably not been nearly as diligent as you.

Whatcha gonna climb? Hope you have a fun trip, and get to see some of the critters scampering about in the BC, and not here in the front country where they have become very large, annoying raccoons.

George Wu · · Newport Beach, CA · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 62

Sidestepping all the flammage, the touristy areas of Yosemite and Tahoe are the worst. For sure, if there's a bear locker, use it. They didn't spend all that money to install them because there wasn't a bear problem.

Anywhere else, call the ranger and/or ask the locals.

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276
Mathias wrote:Actually, I just remembered something about rental car insurance. There's this "loss of use" thing where although *your* insurance may cover repairs to a rental car, the whole time it's being repaired (and so "out of use" to the rental company), you may be paying the rental rate. You should ask about that. I rented a car for a road trip and paid the extra to insure *their* vehicle. My insurance covered third party, but the insurance I got from them meant if their car was damaged for any reason, I could walk away without paying anything. In fact, if it was damaged beyond a roadworthy point, they would just swap it for a new one for the remainder of my rental period. It's expensive, but worry free.
Like Mathias said, your personal auto policy will not cover "loss of use" on a rental car, which can add up quickly. Keep that in mind when/if you decline the additional rental car insurance.
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