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new here, looking at a rope

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Smclaren253 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 0

Found a used rope, stilling original packaging, owner has had it for a year never even took it out of the package or uncoiled it, would you guys purchase? Bluewater eliminator 10.2 60m bi pattern for 100 bucks...

Paul H · · Pennsylvania · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 5

As long as it was stored properly I would buy it. Looks like a good deal to me.

Austin Eddy · · Chattanooga, TN · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 11

Yeah. Check the date as well, but as long as it isn't super old, I'd but it. That was my first rope and it was pretty good. Its taken a lot of falls and could take a lot more.

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

< 3 years from manufacture date and that's a good buy. Your first rope won't last forever anyway. Towards the beginning of a career, ropes get heavier wear. Not necesaarily from falls, but from gear arrangements causing drag, etc.
I'm easily comfortable on a 5 year old rope in good shape.
Again, provided it was stored in a reasonable place, not sitting in the sun on the guys porch(faded) or being run over by trucks...
Which I imagine will not be the case.

Robert Hall · · North Conway, NH · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 27,827

Yep....sounds like a deal (maybe too good???) I routinely buy ropes ahead of time (year or two, when deals arise) and keep them in the bag in a cool, dry place; but if it all checks out I'd buy it. Maybe you want to measure it before actually laying out the cash (Blue Water usually cuts "long") just to be sure it's 60m (technically, 196 ft but should be 200-206 if new). Why's he/she selling it?

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

^^ If it is someone like me, probably because their ____ (GF, Mom, Wife) got them a 60M but they wanted a 70M and ____ (insert gear shop here) won't take returns on ropes. Have had that happen. Likewise, have been given a single color though I only climb on Bicolor. Plenty of reasons why someone might sell an unused rope.

RDW · · Toronto, Canada · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 185
IClimbThings wrote:As long as it was stored properly...
And you verify that...how exactly? We'd all like to take people at their word, but when it comes to lifesaving equipment, is your life worth the $100 you're saving on a rope who's storage history is unverifiable?
Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

I guess the question is, RDW, where are you afraid it might have been stored?

RDW · · Toronto, Canada · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 185
Tony B wrote:I guess the question is, RDW, where are you afraid it might have been stored?
In sunlight. Near a car battery (not so outlandish if one's storage space is also in one's garage). Near bleach.

Obviously YMMV, but for me, soft goods (rope, slings) aren't items I feel comfortable buying used (or even "new" from a private seller).
Smclaren253 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 0

Well that's kinda what I thought, I have a rope already but if I could get my hands on another, especially for 100 bucks, I should probably jump.

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

RDW - if it was parked in sunshine for a year, it will show.
Also - glass filteres UV, at least to a degree... But if it sat in sun for a year, it should show some bleaching. Most people don't store an unusued rope in packaging on their car dash or window sill though... You may have a legit concern, but closets/basements are the norm and probably what was done unless something seems really amiss.

Smclaren253 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 0

I'll probably have the owner of my local gym inspect it before I use it, worst case I spent 100 bucks on something I could use for something else I guess.

RDW · · Toronto, Canada · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 185
Tony B wrote:RDW - if it was parked in sunshine for a year, it will show. Also - glass filteres UV, at least to a degree... But if it sat in sun for a year, it should show some bleaching. Most people don't store an unusued rope in packaging on their car dash or window sill though... You may have a legit concern, but closets/basements are the norm and probably what was done unless something seems really amiss.
This is true. But UV damage is actually the thing to be least worried about, since it's (usually) the most obvious.

Acid/bleach damage is a different story though, since it can often be invisible (e.g., fume damage, rather than a direct spill) and can have dramatic effects on the integrity of ropes/slings.
Austin Eddy · · Chattanooga, TN · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 11
RDW wrote: This is true. But UV damage is actually the thing to be least worried about, since it's (usually) the most obvious. Acid/bleach damage is a different story though, since it can often be invisible (e.g., fume damage, rather than a direct spill) and can have dramatic effects on the integrity of ropes/slings.
I'm pretty sure black diamond released a report that showed that the type of acid damage that affects soft goods is VERY noticeable.
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