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Clif Bar drops sponsored athletes for free-soloing?

reboot · · . · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 125

I like how Cedar basically call Clif Bar a whore:

Wright said Clif Bar contacted him last week and asked if he would return.

“I was like, definitely no,” he said. “It’s like your girlfriend who breaks up with you and wants to get back together. But she’s not really that loyal.”

eyesonice2014 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 140

Clif bar IS a corporate whore! Amen.

Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180

Sooner or later one of these popular solo/base/whatever athletes is going to die and when that happens the general public is going to notice. Cliff's largest consumer group is not climbers and their business could very well become jeopardized. Frankly I think TNF has a shit-ton of exposure with Honold and it will be interesting to see what happens on a corporate level if he is injured or dies soloing (certainly not hoping for his injury but statistics are not on his side).

I could go either way with Cliff's decision (I don't care) but I am glad they didn't back down publicly. In the end, Cliff is giving away money and doesn't have to participate in sports it does not agree with. I have no issue with Cliff pulling support, their position is well reasoned regardless of whether or not the climbing community agrees with it.

eyesonice2014 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 140

Sooner or later we all are gonna die. Yet the corporate greed will always stay unquenchable as the frivolous lawyers are waiting for their piece of pie like hyenas. Screw Clif and Luna bar together. They taste like cardboard anyway. Hmm even homeless guys turn their noses away when they get those free clif barfs! Haha!

Mike Belu · · Chicago, IL · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 135
eyesonice2014 wrote:Clif bar IS a corporate whore! Amen.
Hmm, I think a better analogy is that the athletes are/were the whores taking $; and Clif is the "john" paying for services.
eyesonice2014 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 140

They were living a dream not whoring. Clif bar should take them all back and sooner than later. All of them!
So, Clif bar no longer needed those athletes' services so they went very corporate about it and dumped them. One thing they forgot is human factor. Those athletes and their stories actually mean something to some of us and are quite inspiring. With the market swarming in snack bars that decision will stir people like me who find this decision quite whorish not wanna buy their product with vengeance. They should take off the climber of their bar wrapper. And the new "iced" bar really sucks and gave me indigestion.

Mike Belu · · Chicago, IL · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 135

They still are living the dream.

Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180
eyesonice2014 wrote:They were living a dream not whoring. Clif bar should take them all back and sooner than later. All of them!
Maybe they should pay for their own dream then. Cliff was buying a service but decided it not longer felt good about the service. Seams to me that is the sort of decision that makes a company socially conscious.
Alan Nagel · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2008 · Points: 5
Ray Pinpillage wrote: Maybe they should pay for their own dream then. Cliff was buying a service but decided it not longer felt good about the service. Seams to me that is the sort of decision that makes a company socially conscious.
+1

And compare Honnold quoted in today's New York Times: "The risk decision that Clif is making is the same kind of decision that we all make as athletes. I think it’s completely fair for them to draw a line. It’s a very personal decision. If Clif thought about it and said that that’s the line that they want to take, I can’t begrudge that. That’s the same kind of line I draw with risk.”
reboot · · . · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 125
Ray Pinpillage wrote: Cliff was buying a service but decided it not longer felt good about the service. Seams to me that is the sort of decision that makes a company socially conscious.
I'm pretty sure that was a reactive decision (holy shit! the main stream consumers can't stomach the film & are threatening to boycott the company) vs a proactive one (corporate watched a pre-release of the film & decided that doesn't represent the brand). Nothing socially conscious about it, it was all bottom line.
Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180
reboot wrote: I'm pretty sure that was a reactive decision (holy shit! the main stream consumers can't stomach the film & are threatening to boycott the company) vs a proactive one (corporate watched a pre-release of the film & decided that doesn't represent the brand). Nothing socially conscious about it, it was all bottom line.
Was there a boycott or some other mainstream dust up? I really haven't been paying close attention so maybe I missed something.
Tug · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 0

Ebola?

Marc H · · Longmont, CO · Joined May 2007 · Points: 265
Hardhat n Hexes wrote:I just cant believe how many people have such strong opinions about whether or not freesoloists, BASE jumpers and highliners get free clif bars. Who cares??? What about Ebola, global warming, Ukraine, the Middle East, GOP control of the house and senate? These are real problems, not who does or doesn't get free CLIF bars. Thx
You're welcome. There are plenty of people with strong opinions about Ebola and such. They rarely post those opinions on a climbing website though. Maybe you would be happier on Foxnews.com?
marty funkhouser · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 20

I'm trying to organize an Ebola ice bucket challenge. Any takers? Afterwards we can do the Harlem Shake.

doligo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 264

LOL. Is Ebola the new apogee of Godwin's Law?

SXL · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 10

At what height does highball bouldering become free soloing?

Anonymous · · Unknown Hometown · Joined unknown · Points: 0
SXL wrote:At what height does highball bouldering become free soloing?
Anything over 30ft is free soloing.

marty funkhouser wrote:I'm trying to organize an Ebola ice bucket challenge. Any takers? Afterwards we can do the Harlem Shake.
I don't understand where the challenge from an ice bucket comes from. Lets go find a good easy 50ft route and start the free solo challenge.
eyesonice2014 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 140

They were all doing vodka bucket challenge...so I though.

Abram Herman · · Grand Junction, CO · Joined May 2009 · Points: 20

If Clif bar actually did this for moral reasons, I could understand it. When they're trying to go back on their poorly-received decision by re-inviting the athletes they cut to join their sponsored team again, any moral claims ring hollow: mensjournal.com/adventure/r…

From the Cedar Wright interview:
"Q: Is it true Clif Bar backtracked?
A: Yeah, I got the official call re-inviting me back. I said no."

Taylor J · · Taos NM · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 390
Abram Herman wrote:If Clif bar actually did this for moral reasons, I could understand it. When they're trying to go back on their poorly-received decision by re-inviting the athletes they cut to join their sponsored team again, any moral claims ring hollow: mensjournal.com/adventure/r… From the Cedar Wright interview: "Q: Is it true Clif Bar backtracked? A: Yeah, I got the official call re-inviting me back. I said no."
Who cares
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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