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Thought Experiment: Genetics, Adaptations and Evolution

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William Sonoma · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 3,550

This is just for fun, however I have been seriously pondering this and am curious if anyone has an opinion. No right or wrong answers here.

The thought experiment:

Say your parents climbed (both parents), and you climb along with your partner, you have a child together (same DNA, not adopted, etc) and your child climbs, your child has a child with another climber, that child has a child with another climber, whose has a child with another climber, on and on...

If you are an 8th, 9th, 10th + generation climber do you have adaptations (maybe quicker recovery, re-enforced tendons or able to somehow not be as effected by humidity) that will allow you to take to climbing even easier, or send harder routess/problems? If so what adaptations would/could occur?

We havent been around long enough to witness a 15th generation climber yet. Will our offspring 10, 11, 12 generations down the road have unique adaptations to the "vertical world?"

Polar Bears are said to have evolved to their current state over 10-15,000 years (so Im told), is it far fetched to think that humans will/can also adapt over time regarding climbing?

Im curious your thoughts?

Steven Groetken · · Durango, CO · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 390

Look up morphic resonance experiments performed by Rupert Sheldrake. According to the results, not only is that feasible, but the more people who climb, will make all of humanity (climbers or not) better climbers.

Steven Groetken · · Durango, CO · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 390

According to Darwinian biology, however, it only would be possible if climbers were getting laid more than non climbers.

Paul-B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 115

I would say no. Evolution happens through elimination of genes that negatively effect procreation/survival, and perpetuation of those that improve. DNA does not change because of your environment/activities- evolution happens at the population level, not at the individual level. Changes can happen in DNA expression/regulation- through epigenetics and other such changes- but these are not passed on. In other words- the act of climbing of parents will not change make up of children. Children may be progressively better climbers in your situation- but this is likely b/c parents are likely to select other climbers as mates. Climbers likely have more athletic genetics to begin with- so you have selective breeding. Athletic genes breeding with athletic genes. Whether they climbed or were runners or pole vaulters is irrelevant, their DNA makeup doesn't change.

Altered Ego · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 0

Stoned,

Wouldn't we be re-adapting abilities that were lost when we came out of the trees?

That Sheldrake stuff looks interesting, I think I'll read up on it more. It sounds fairly inline with typical spiritual teachings which point to a collective human consciousness which exists outside of ones own brain yet is accessed through the brain.

More and more I am seeing how life is not as we perceive it to be and that science is constantly misunderstanding reality through its' empirical process.

CraigS. · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 10

Not to thread jack or stir anything up, but MC, how is science misunderstanding reality? I do believe there is still tons to learn, so is it misunderstanding or do we no know what we don't know?

drewp · · Vegas · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 1,616
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