Microcender or Ropeman?
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I'm looking for a second, less expensive device to back up (or other way around) my microtraxion for top-rope soloing. Tying back up knots is not an option and I'd prefer not use a chest sling either. |
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My preference is the Microcender. Moves easily and cams securely. |
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^^^ This. |
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another for microcender. I like it as a backup when I'm going to be jugging a lot of fixed lines. No teeth is a huge plus. Plus, it's made to slip a little when it engaged to allow some of the force to dampen. |
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Micrrocender |
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I use the ropeman as well, it works fantastic |
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I use a microcender. It feeds smoothly and engages well since you clip into the the cam directly. It's design with the lack of teeth allow you to scoot back down a couple feet relatively easily if you need slack without having to mess with sharp teeth that are engaged into your sheath fibers (seems like with toothed devices you really have to totally unweight the device and go back up a bit if that makes sense). For TR solo, I also really like how easy it is to disassemble (just pull the pin) without having to de-rig completely from the device and as such there's no risk of dropping. Allows you to switch over to rap mode and run laps, etc. pretty easily. |
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I use a pair of ropeman 1 (ropemen?) for TR soloing. I went for the 1 because it doesn't have the rope shredder teeth of the minitraxion, and I use it a lot for jugging while route-setting at the rec center, because of that. |
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Thanks for all the helpful responses! Sounds like the microcender might be the way to go. I'm actually kind of surprised that I only see mini and microtraxions in use with all of the benefits of the microcender... |
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Brandon R. wrote:Thanks for all the helpful responses! Sounds like the microcender might be the way to go. I'm actually kind of surprised that I only see mini and microtraxions in use with all of the benefits of the microcender...Probably because the mini and microtraxion can also work as a hauling pulley whereas the microcender is more of a one-trick pony that does its trick very well. Microcender = $65 Minitraxion & Microtraxion ~ $100 new (microtraxion ~ $70 used) |
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A backup on a tether can mean possible shock loading on a static rope especially as you approach the anchors On a dynamic rope its less of a concern IMO ... On a static rope the forces and consequence of slack in the system (from the rope or a trailing tether) would be higher Petzl says basically the same thing about toothed ascenders, they strip the rope around 4-5 KN ;) |
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kevin deweese wrote: $5 ;)That's only for the ropeman 2. The Ropeman 1 uses only a cam. It works more like a Shunt, although without the big rope guide/control handle that the shunt has. |
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A toothed ascender works fine if its connected to yr belay loop and there no slack in the system |
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Does anyone us a system which uses two different devices that are both toothless? I have a setup like the one below in mind. I'm wondering how well it would work with a microcender (as pictured) and some other kind of toothless device. Maybe a ropeman I or something similar? |
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I use the Rescuecender and Microcender together. Microcender is the backup. |
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Don't forget the Kong Duck! |
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OK, this is not what you asked for, so feel free to send me to hell.
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I've tried many different setups and currently use a Microcender with a Climbing Technolgy RollNLock as the backup. Previously I used a microtrax as the backup--also tried the ropeman. RollNLock has no teeth and also functions as a pulley. |