Park Service Plan to Chop 200+ bolts Still on the Table for Christmas Tree Pass, NV
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Hello Everyone, |
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Comments submitted. |
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This area has a National Recreation Area designation? Does this designation not allow the use of fixed anchorage, in the case of climbing, or other impositions in the environment that are coincidental with various respective recreational pursuits as long as there is not significant degradation to the resource? I thought that the NRA designation is more forgiving on this kind of issue than say, a wilderness area or perhaps national park designation. Is my thinking correct? Anyone know or have any insight? |
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When you write, and every climber should kick in, be sure to ask to be kept informed of all future actions related to the proposed 'management'. After writing a week ago, I have still not received any notice whatsoever indicating they'd gotten my letter. |
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done |
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done. and bump. |
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bernard wrote:This area has a National Recreation Area designation? Does this designation not allow the use of fixed anchorage, in the case of climbing, or other impositions in the environment that are coincidental with various respective recreational pursuits as long as there is not significant degradation to the resource? I thought that the NRA designation is more forgiving on this kind of issue than say, a wilderness area or perhaps national park designation. Is my thinking correct? Anyone know or have any insight?The Access Fund and others are working on answering these questions. Will post again as soon as I get more information. Another Sample Objection Letter Lake Mead National Recreation Area (702-293-8990) Park Superintendent (702-293-8920) 601 Nevada Hwy Boulder City, NV 89005-2426 Via Fax to: 702-293-8936 Via Webform to: parkplanning.nps.gov/commen… SUBJECT: Objection to LAKE Draft Wilderness Management Plan/EA - April 2010 It has come to my attention that the NPS is considering implementing a ban on the placement of fixed climbing anchors In the Lake Mead NRA - although I found no mention of this issue on their website. Furthermore, Lake Mead NRA is apparently proposing to remove 200 or more anchors that are already in place. As an avid rock climber, mountaineer, and advocate for the preservation of wilderness, I am adamantly opposed to these proposals which will deny recreational use of public land to a sizeable community of outdoor enthusiasts without appreciable enhancement of aesthetic, historical, or environmental values or qualities. Fixed anchors have been employed by climbers in the U.S. since the 1930's. They were first placed by the likes of David Brower, Ansel Adams, Francis Farquahr, and others, without whose passion for climbing in wild places, we would have no Wilderness act. In fact the political activism of these early "bolters" created the foundations of enlightened land use policy today. These pioneers were convinced that recreational use of wilderness would motivate public support for preservation. They would surely have argued that the negligible impact of fixed anchors, responsibly placed, would be a small price to pay for the education and motivation of legions of future environmental stewards. While there may be places where anchors have proliferated beyond "responsible" levels, Christmas Tree Pass is not one of them. All anchors have been placed in traditional style, ground up, and by hand. They are few and far between - much to the chagrin of inexperienced climbers. In fact, it's hard for even a trained climber to spot most of them. To ban the placement of new anchors would be senseless enough. But removing those already in place would be the height of folly. Not only would precious funds be wasted in this effort, but the impact of such a project would be equivalent to the impact of many years of normal climber traffic. Finally, scars would remain. Even a bolt hole filled with a rock/epoxy mixture can be detected upon close examination. Would this be progress? In conclusion, I urge you and your colleagues in the National Park Service to retract these proposals which would benefit neither the environment in the LMNRA, the climbing community, or the larger public, should these proposals be adopted in the Lake Mead NRA, or anywhere else. |
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The following were essentially my comments to the NPS on their proposed wilderness management plan: |
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Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Comment sent. |
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Sent and BUMP |
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I definitely do not like the sound of this plan. I submitted my comments opposing the plan. Thanks for posting this information. |
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Christmas Tree Pass BOLT CHOPPING Update
As of Saturday, May 8th: The two primary issues for Rock Climbers are still Bolt Chopping and Native American Treaty Rights. Here's why: On Thursday, May 6th, a local climber from Bullhead City, AZ met with a particular Lake Mead NRA Park Planner (who I believe to be the source of the bolt chopping plan) at Christmas Tree Pass, NV, took him on a tour and showed him some of the main formations and routes. After wandering around CTP for a couple of hours, the Park Planner orally agreed that the bolts are virtually invisible and that 95% of the bolts are in the Bridge Canyon Wilderness, NOT in the Spirit Mountain Wilderness where the mountain itself is a designated cultural resource which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Based on his meeting with the Park Planner, the local climber reported that the Park Planner seems to have changed his opinion; and he no longer believes that chopping bolts at Christmas Tree Pass is a good idea. However, the Lake Mead NRA has NOT withdrawn their bolt chopping plan. And, Lake Mead NRA has specifically told both me and one of the Access Fund attorneys that Bolt Chopping is "Still On the Table" That local climber agreed with me that all we can do for now is keep sending in Objection letters in opposition to bolt chopping and give the Access Fund, the Las Vegas Climbers Liason Counsel (LVCLC), the local climber from Bullhead City, AZ and others a chance to consult with Lake Mead NRA and the indigenous Americans with treaty rights in the area and try to negotiate a new wilderness management "Plan" that permits rock climbing bolts. The local climber specifically requested that we be polite so that the Lake Mead NRA personnel don't get their hackles up. The new deadline for Objecting to the bolt chopping plan is July 1st. Will post another update as soon as I learn anything new. Lake Mead NRA: LAKE Draft Wilderness Management Plan OFFICIAL COMMENT LINK parkplanning.nps.gov/commen… |
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Last Chance to post an objection to the bolt chopping plan.The comment period closes on Friday 07/02/2010 at 11:59 PM.Lake Mead draft Plan Comment Link: http://parkplanning.nps.gov/commentForm.cfm?parkID=317&projectID=16820&documentId=33282The draft Lake Mead Wilderness Plan as published proposes comprehensive bolt removal and constructively bans all rock climbing in the Bridge Canyon Wilderness by banning climbing bolts which provide 95% of the leader protection in this area. No other form of leader protection is available on the featureless rock walls of Christmas Tree Pass. Though the Lake Mead NRA has been consulting with the Access Fund about rock climbing at Christmas Tree Pass, they have refused to rescind their bolt chopping plan as published back in April 2010. If Lake Mead NRA succeeds in perfecting their constructive rock climbing ban, places like Yosemite and Joshua Tree will be next. Access Fund Action Alert & Comment Link: http://www.accessfund.org/c.tmL5KhNWLrH/b.5208267/k.8C84/Action_Center/siteapps/advocacy/ActionItem.aspx?c=tmL5KhNWLrH&b=5208267&aid=14437 From the Access Fund CTP Action Alert "This wholesale removal of climbing anchors is unprecedented....." ---------------------------- There is no rational basis for this constructive rock climbing ban. In their response to a recent FOIA request, Lake Mead NRA admitted that the Native Americans who have treaty rights in this area have not complained about the presence of climbing bolts at Christmas Tree Pass. And, as far as I know, neither has anyone else. Don't let one irrational Park Planner ban rock climbing at Christmas Tree Pass and set a precedent for banning rock climbing nationwide. Submit your objections today! |
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more comments suggested and sent. |
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Bump..... |
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Here is the recent Access Fund email I received about it. |
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Bumpity Bump |
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That's stupid. Chopping existing bolts is still going to leave bolt hole scars! Better to just leave them alone at this point! |
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Hard to say exactly what will happen, but based on discussions with the Access Fund and their hard work reaching out to the Native Americans in the area, it appears we could have a compromise where climbing north of Christmas Tree Pass (Aviator Wall) would be prohibited and routes removed. It is now believed, however, that most agree that leaving existing bolts in place would cause the least amount of damage to the rock. Climbing south of Christmas Tree Pass (Dali Dome, H&R Block, Space Needle) would be allowed to continue. I know the AF continues to keep an eye on this. I understand their letter to the National Park Service on this matter will go out this week. We'll try to post the best information possible as soon as we get it. |
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Could someone please update as to the status of the routes in this area? Our area is being a proposed wilderness area and we could like to know what potential regulations could be enforced there. |
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As I understand it, |