Any glaring holes in my sport rack?
|
circumsizion. trad is scary and dangerous, you dont want to end up climbing trad. removal of the balls will ensure you stay a sport climber. |
|
^^^castration maybe? i'm circumcised and climb trad/alpine just fine.....gotta cut those extra ounces everywhere you can. |
|
superkick wrote:circumsizion. trad is scary and dangerous, you dont want to end up climbing trad. removal of the balls will ensure you stay a sport climber.I don't think this word means what you think it means. |
|
Superkick, the brave 5.9 trad climber, is correct: |
|
If your parents did the Jewish male genital mutilation ritual, you will have sport climbing/musical theater tendencies. |
|
"No kidding.
A lot of people stuck in the past too. Pretty cool to see some folks still growing and learning as climbers though- rgold springs immediately to mind, there are certainly others." "These wanks recommending gri-gris either don't know what the mega Jul is or have never used one." "It's always obvious who doesn't do much sport climbing." Gri gri's are so yesterday! LOL! |
|
TMI, ze_dirtbag! Your female partners will never look at you the same. |
|
to the OP |
|
David Sahalie wrote: that's not ghey or anythingI said stand on his back,, not sit on his ass or face !!!but you never know with back country tent buddies after 20 years or so away on their own ,without the women on their 'adventures'....... |
|
Don't fall for the gear snobs advice. High School peer pressure to join their club. |
|
Woodchuck ATC wrote: I said stand on his back,, not sit on his ass or face !!!but you never know with back country tent buddies after 20 years or so away on their own ,without the women on their 'adventures'.......My girl Palmela never leaves my side! You'd have to cut her off to keep me away from her. ;) |
|
Once you know how to use it, consider adding an adjustable wrench. But learn to use it first. Otherwise, it's solid enough. No glaring holes. I'd add a couple more lockers, but that is personal preference. |
|
via dictionary.com |
|
Locker is even more right than I thought, as I forgot how revolutionary the Mega Jul is... as it is just as much of an auto lock device as the Gri, if not better. |
|
Hammock and webbing to rig it. Essential for conserving energy between burns on your sick proj. *no one* will think you are a douche ;] |
|
^^ reading comprehension: the OP already has one. Helmet that is. |
|
Craig Childre wrote:Locker is even more right than I thought, as I forgot how revolutionary the Mega Jul is... as it is just as much of an auto lock device as the Gri, if not better. Screw Gri Gri completely... too heavy, too expensive, and only works on a single strand... Mega Jul is your hot ticket! My ATC guides about to get retired ;)I hadn't seen this device...looks very intriguing. |
|
I know this is a thread about sport gear but since gear choice is obviously influenced by the techniques used, there is a relevant concern I have with a suggestion made here. Alvaro Arnal wrote:As for rappelling: don't rappel off of sport routes; lowering through the anchor is quicker, easier and safer.I was really surprised to see this suggestion and I disagree with this blanket statement. Like most things in climbing you need to assess each situation you encounter and do what makes the most sense for THAT situation. That said, I find rappelling preferable to lowering in virtually all descent situations for the following reasons: 1) Rappelling and lowering have the same amount of steps (one you tie back into your harness, one you clip a rappel device to your harness) so I don't see an argument for one being quicker or easier. 2) Regarding safety, to me, being in personal control of my descent is safer. Having one sole person involved means there is no opportunity for miscommunication regarding whether you are on or off belay. Being the one who is controlling my rate of descent is advantageous because I can see more accurately what obstacles I am encountering as I go and can compensate accordingly versus the limited 3rd person perspective of a belayer. Rock fall, bee stings, a fit female in tight yoga wear, or any number of other distractions that a belayer is susceptible to at the base of a climb are additional opportunities of unnecessary risk. Those things can distract a rappeller too but a well installed backup can keep you from dropping to the deck if you go unconscious. A fireman's belay can offer even further safety if that is a concern. 3) Additionally, the integrity of the permanently installed hardware is what makes sport climbing possible in the first place and I feel that as participants in the outdoors it is everyone's responsibility to leave the place we play in in the same or better condition than we found it ('better' in sport climbing might mean something like tightening loose bolts or nuts, for example). Lowering a weighted climber with the friction of dirty climbing ropes unnecessarily wears on hardware while rappelling down an effectively fixed line and pulling an unweighted rope produces little to no wear on steel anchor hardware. 4) Also with regard to hardware, there are so many different kinds of anchor installations out there including simply 2 ordinary bolt hangers with thin, non-radiused, flat, often sharp edges. Nylon versus sharp steel edges - nylon looses. I'd love to live to climb another day so lowering off a pair of standard bolt hangers isn't an option for me. There's a lot of throwing around the "fuck it, it's just sport climbing" in this thread and generally I agree. I'm a proponent of the KISS principle and like many of you have said, sport climbing's appeal is in it's simplicity. In comparison to trad climbing. There's a reason rappelling and lowering have been the respective themes of the last two year's editions of Accidents in North American Mountaineering. Anytime you are untying yourself from your life line you are at a heightened risk and should proceed knowledgably with care. While we're talking in depth about the risks of descent options, it is worth noting that one of the most common causes of rappelling accidents is with regard to rope length and rappelling off the end of your rope. In single pitch sport, this isn't usually an issue but nevertheless, this issue plagues lowering as well. No matter who is controlling the descent (rappeller or belayer), if they aren't being vigilant of rope length it doesn't matter what method you using, the effects will be unfortunate. Regardless of the fact that the hardware atop a climb dictates your descent options often ruling out lowering anyway, I see no benefit to lowering. In fact for the reasons mentioned above it adds unnecessary elements of risk. If you think getting stung by bees or hit by rock fall is unlikely or that weighted nylon climbing rope can't wear through steel anchors... hah I'm glad you haven't experienced these scenarios yet, but if you keep climbing long enough, I assure you you will see there is truth to their likelihood and not overly prudent nor merely hypothetical or theoretical considerations. If you read this whole thing, thanks and look forward to your thoughts. -Dan |
|
Dan Allard wrote:Regardless of the fact that the hardware atop a climb dictates your descent options often ruling out lowering anyway, I see no benefit to lowering. In fact for the reasons mentioned above it adds unnecessary elements of risk. If you think getting stung by bees or hit by rock fall is unlikely or that weighted nylon climbing rope can't wear through steel anchors... hah I'm glad you haven't experienced these scenarios yet, but if you keep climbing long enough, I assure you you will see there is truth to their likelihood and not overly prudent nor merely hypothetical or theoretical considerations.rapping and cleaning very overhanging routes is a biatch and can be quite dangerous lowering is much safer with the proper techniques ;) petzl 2014 literature petzl 2014 literature |
|
bearbreeder wrote: rapping and cleaning very overhanging routes is a biatch and can be quite dangerousThat's a great example of when lowering is preferred. Thanks for adding that scenario. The terrain is indeed another important consideration that is route specific that makes blanket statements inappropriate. If the top anchors are actually on top of the climb rather than on the face, or set back ("recessed" if you will) say above a ledge, lowering could mean the weighted rope is going to be sawing on that point the whole way down. |