Roadside Crag Closure, Why no change in status?

M Sprague wrote:The sad truth is an unfortunately large segment of humanity are uncouth idiots who should be working in the salt mines. Boom box>>salt mine, improperly shitting at the crag>>>salt mine

Ro Is an easy poach

Keithb00ne wrote: At least forced human spade and neutering so you can weed their stupidity out of the gene pool.

Keithb00ne wrote: At least forced human spade and neutering so you can weed their stupidity out of the gene pool.

5.samadhi wrote:Ro Is an easy poach

Keithb00ne wrote: At least forced human spade and neutering so you can weed their stupidity out of the gene pool.

(As a dog lover). I agree with NO DOGS.

Many of you have discussed the reasons for the closure and you are correct.
People seem to forget that the owners graciously allowed free climbing, parking, and evening camping at one point. But disrespectful climbers have destroyed the chance to enjoy some of the best routes in the Red for future climbers.
The big problem in the Red(and PMRP) is climbers will drive to Lexington to buy $20 worth of Organic food for a day, buy a 30 rack of beer for $20+, then get pissed when owners ask for donations to help keep the crag sustainable for climbers such as them selves.
A simple $5 donation everytime you climbed at PMRP, Muir Valley, or any other privately owned crag can go a long way.

If you can't afford $5 for a day of climbing at one of the best crags in the world, you need to reevaluate your life.

Hobo wrote:Many of you have discussed the reasons for the closure and you are correct. People seem to forget that the owners graciously allowed free climbing, parking, and evening camping at one point. But disrespectful climbers have destroyed the chance to enjoy some of the best routes in the Red for future climbers. The big problem in the Red(and PMRP) is climbers will drive to Lexington to buy $20 worth of Organic food for a day, buy a 30 rack of beer for $20+, then get pissed when owners ask for donations to help keep the crag sustainable for climbers such as them selves. A simple $5 donation everytime you climbed at PMRP, Muir Valley, or any other privately owned crag can go a long way. If you can't afford $5 for a day of climbing at one of the best crags in the world, you need to reevaluate your life.