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Just bought another new rope and on browing the brochure I noticed that it said the rope should be replaced after a single fall >FF1. |
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is your rope made of braided hemp? |
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NOBODY performs a FF1. |
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DoesNotCare wrote:NOBODY performs a FF1. ropebook.com/information/fa…FF1+ is a possibility when multipitch climbing. |
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I did. In fact, had it not been for a bolt clipped immediately at the anchor, it would have been a factor 2. |
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DoesNotCare wrote:NOBODY performs a FF1.This is absolutely false. I've taken a FF1 fall myself. So has the poster above me. |
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You climb on static ropes and the belayer is also not allowing ANY extra slack out??? hmm. |
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DoesNotCare wrote:You climb on static ropes and the belayer is also not allowing ANY extra slack out??? hmm.I think you need to look up what the definition of a factor 2 fall is. |
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DoesNotCare wrote: ropebook.com/information/fa… http://www.ropebook.com/information/fall-factorsExcellent work. Next step, read for comprehension. |
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Another point: the '>' symbol means greater than. . . |
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Fall Factor One - FF1 This would result in a fall factor one (FF1). Low-stretch or semi-static ropes conforming to the European EN 1891 standard are tested to hold a specific number of fall factor one (FF1) falls before failure occurs. Although using semi-static rope to arrest falls should always be avoided as significant and possibly fatal forces can be exerted on the climber, the anchor point and the equipment. - See more at: ropebook.com/information/fa… How are you going to fall the same distance as the rope you have out if you are climbing on a dynamic rope with a slightly dynamic belay??? |
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A fall factor is not a measurement of fall force nor is it a measure of absolute distance. |
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I think some people need to brush up on their division. |
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DoesNotCare wrote:I think some people need to brush up on their division.For posterity. Remember, ropes don't break, they cut ;) |
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michael s... wrote:is your rope made of braided hemp?Good question but no - Edelrid. I was quite surprised. All those bridge jumps on climbing rope are FF1. |
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DoesNotCare wrote: How are you going to fall the same distance as the rope you have out if you are climbing on a dynamic rope with a slightly dynamic belay???Your understanding of ff's seems poor. And those diagrams, although mathematically correct are poor depictions of fall factors. |
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Syd wrote: Good question but no - Edelrid. I was quite surprised. All those bridge jumps on climbing rope are FF1.The issue is not that the rope will break if you fall on it again, but that the rope will/may be far less dynamic on future falls, which will increase force on both climber and top piece of gear, making it more likely to pop/break gear and more likely to damage the climber. |
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Inspect the rope closely ... Consider the age and wear of the rope then make a decision |