Another useless ethics debate

For me, a real onsight only happens if I'm totally baked.

If I'm hanging out in some stupid stance getting pumped trying to place some stupid nut cause I left the small cams on the ground only to make one more move to a huge jug and a rest after placing the stupid nut than I know I'm onsighting, and I'm totally baked.

MC Poopypants wrote:For me, a real onsight only happens if I'm totally baked. If I'm hanging out in some stupid stance getting pumped trying to place some stupid nut cause I left the small cams on the ground only to make one more move to a huge jug and a rest after placing the stupid nut than I know I'm onsighting, and I'm totally baked.

I say its ALWAYS an onsight when fully cooked, even when youve done the route before

Perhaps the only true on sight ground up is a first ascent ,more so a route with multi pitches on a unclimbed crag.

It really depends on the kind of shoes you wear

I'd like to add to the terminology being thrown around.

Onsight Amnesia: When one onsights a route (definitions aside), then repeatedly falls and cannot repeat the route after.

MJMobes wrote: I say its ALWAYS an onsight when fully cooked, even when youve done the route before

This is truth. For this reason, I propose a new term: the ganjasight. In a ganjasight, you have climbed or tried the route before, but then the sticky icky eliminated all memory of beta, leaving your addled brain to have to re-onsight the route.

Mark E Dixon wrote: I believe this is also called a 'deja vu'. But not many folks remember the term 'a vu' so even fewer will know 'deja vu'. Anyway, it's mostly rotpunkt for me.

I call it 'senior onsight' - haven't had any of those yet, though.

farsight -- walk along the base, grade the climbs, and send them... off to the publisher

JCM wrote: This is truth. For this reason, I propose a new term: the ganjasight. In a ganjasight, you have climbed or tried the route before, but then the sticky icky eliminated all memory of beta, leaving your addled brain to have to re-onsight the route.

Very similar to the Alzheimer's Onsite. You climbed the route before but can't remember a damn thing about it. This actually a benefit. You get to climb routes over and over again and have it feel like the first time. This is when I sing that Foreigner song: Feels like the first time.... feels like the very first time...

Is it still a ganjasight if I climb up sober and places a few pieces then downclimb to the ground and smoke a bowl then send?

as long as you didn't stick-clip the first bolt!

I believe the correct response to any ganjasight debate is "Whatever brah, its cool"