Break off bouldering to separate site?
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Has any thought been giving to breaking off bouldering to a separate web site like you did for mountain biking? This site could easily be overwhelmed by everyone including their favorite two move wonder on every little pebble in the country. Isn't the name "Mountain Project" a misnomer when you include pebble problems? |
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With that logic, the majority of climbs on this site should be on a different site. Sure, some climbs are actual multipitch mountain climbs, but it's a small portion of the climbing that actually exists here. |
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Brian wrote: two move wonder...pebble problems?I'm not feeling very pejorative about boulder problems myself since I feel like they significantly up my trad and sport climbing game. I see the different types of climbing as symbiotic and I'm glad the blocs exist on this site. |
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Danie White wrote: I'm not feeling very pejorative about boulder problems myself since I feel like they significantly up my trad and sport climbing game. I see the different types of climbing as symbiotic and I'm glad the blocs exist on this site.I would agree with Danie on this. I enjoy all aspects of climbing and I like going to an area like p way and doing a few trad climbs, then hopping on some boulders. It would be inconvenient to have to go to a different site to find info on a boulder that's at the same spot as a trad climb or vise versa. |
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Brian wrote:This site could easily be overwhelmed by everyone including their favorite two move wonder on every little pebble in the country.But it hasn't and isn't likely to happen. A vast majority just click, tick, downgrade and star away. It is a very small minority who add routes/problems. |
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Hey Brian, don't hate because you are not strong enough to boulder and your possible fear of soloing is getting in the way :) |
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:).... then where would Wheel of Life fall? Also, guys riding bikes... are riding bikes.. Trad, Sport, Boulder, Aid.... we are all climbing, the moves are the same, the only difference is the tool used to safeguard the practice. |
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Maybe you haven't noticed (maybe you have), but there is a feature on every page that allows one to sort the various disciplines of climbing. This will allow you to only view the type of climbing you're interested in Red. |
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For the larger areas I think it works best if the boulder problems are listed under a separate area page, so the routes aren't jumbled together with problems. For example - * Yosemite Valley Bouldering and *Joshua Tree Bouldering*. |
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I don't think I have seen much in the way of 'pebble problems' overwhelming the 'real' problems/interfering with any other style of climbing here. |
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Bryan G wrote:For the larger areas I think it works best if the boulder problems are listed under a separate area page, so the routes aren't jumbled together with problems. For example - * Yosemite Valley Bouldering and *Joshua Tree Bouldering*. Keeps it nicely organized without the need for a completely different website.this would be nice for rumbling bald NC |
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Climbing and bouldering are clearly different pursuits. They have different rating systems and use different equipment. Most climbers do some bouldering but most boulderers don't climb. |
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White Privilege wrote:Climbing and bouldering are clearly different pursuits. They have different rating systems and use different equipment.Big wall climbers, ice climbers, sport climbers and mountaineers all use different equipment and have different rating systems too. Frequently, it's hard to say when a boulder problem ends and a "proper" route begins. I say live and let live :) |
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White Privilege wrote:in mass there's 1700 routes that are almost all problems.I think that says more about the geography of Massachusetts than anything. --a Northeast native |
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White Privilege wrote:Most climbers do some bouldering but most boulderers don't climbBwah! That's rich. If you're far enough from the deck to hurt yourself when you hit it, you're climbing. I'd say it happens around move #7-8 for a fair number of boulder problems... Last I checked there were many routes where by move #7-8 you've clipped. Twice. |
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Marek, |
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Most boulders are found in the mountains or near mountains. Thus boulders are projects that take place in the mountains, thus they are mountain projects. |
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White Privilege wrote:Climbers (ice, bigwall, sport, alpine) use ropes, boulderers use crash pads.Skiers, slack-liners, riggers, etc. all use ropes. Free-soloists climb without. By the above definition, they're not a climbers?!?!? Climbers climb stuff. There are too many variations out there to peg it much further, thus a website generally addressing climbing works well. Carry on. |
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Brian, please don't neglect the alpine expedition bouldering. They go to the mountains to wrestle pebbles at the base like in this film - it is the future! |
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Bryan G wrote:For the larger areas I think it works best if the boulder problems are listed under a separate area page, so the routes aren't jumbled together with problems. For example - * Yosemite Valley Bouldering and *Joshua Tree Bouldering*. Keeps it nicely organized without the need for a completely different website.+1 This would also be nice when I'm in an area and just looking to go out for a quick bouldering session, or if I'm traveling somewhere and want to check out the bouldering at a glance. |
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Kirk, |