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Break off bouldering to separate site?

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Brian · · North Kingstown, RI · Joined Sep 2001 · Points: 804

Has any thought been giving to breaking off bouldering to a separate web site like you did for mountain biking? This site could easily be overwhelmed by everyone including their favorite two move wonder on every little pebble in the country. Isn't the name "Mountain Project" a misnomer when you include pebble problems?

Ryan Nevius · · Perchtoldsdorf, AT · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 1,837

With that logic, the majority of climbs on this site should be on a different site. Sure, some climbs are actual multipitch mountain climbs, but it's a small portion of the climbing that actually exists here.

Danie White · · SLC, UT · Joined Oct 2012 · Points: 230
Brian wrote: two move wonder...pebble problems?
I'm not feeling very pejorative about boulder problems myself since I feel like they significantly up my trad and sport climbing game. I see the different types of climbing as symbiotic and I'm glad the blocs exist on this site.
Taylor J · · Taos NM · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 390
Danie White wrote: I'm not feeling very pejorative about boulder problems myself since I feel like they significantly up my trad and sport climbing game. I see the different types of climbing as symbiotic and I'm glad the blocs exist on this site.
I would agree with Danie on this. I enjoy all aspects of climbing and I like going to an area like p way and doing a few trad climbs, then hopping on some boulders. It would be inconvenient to have to go to a different site to find info on a boulder that's at the same spot as a trad climb or vise versa.
Jason Todd · · Cody, WY · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,114
Brian wrote:This site could easily be overwhelmed by everyone including their favorite two move wonder on every little pebble in the country.
But it hasn't and isn't likely to happen. A vast majority just click, tick, downgrade and star away. It is a very small minority who add routes/problems.
boulderstrong Insani · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 145

Hey Brian, don't hate because you are not strong enough to boulder and your possible fear of soloing is getting in the way :)

Craig Childre · · Lubbock, TX · Joined Aug 2006 · Points: 4,860

:).... then where would Wheel of Life fall? Also, guys riding bikes... are riding bikes.. Trad, Sport, Boulder, Aid.... we are all climbing, the moves are the same, the only difference is the tool used to safeguard the practice.

Jeffrey Arthur · · Westminster, CO · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 290

Maybe you haven't noticed (maybe you have), but there is a feature on every page that allows one to sort the various disciplines of climbing. This will allow you to only view the type of climbing you're interested in Red.

Bryan G · · June Lake, CA · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 6,167

For the larger areas I think it works best if the boulder problems are listed under a separate area page, so the routes aren't jumbled together with problems. For example - * Yosemite Valley Bouldering and *Joshua Tree Bouldering*.

Keeps it nicely organized without the need for a completely different website.

Josh Heath · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2013 · Points: 0

I don't think I have seen much in the way of 'pebble problems' overwhelming the 'real' problems/interfering with any other style of climbing here.

I feel like most of the boulder action here is ticking off famous lines, and that a lot of us don't bother posting that sweet dyno to the ledge under the shrub, or that V3 to get from my bed to the kitchen without touching the ground... If we had a separate bouldering page for MP, I wonder if that wouldn't just make the 'specialized' page a sort of breeding ground for tedious/contrived lines... You know -- for the sake of having more website content.

rock-fencer · · Columbia, SC · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 265
Bryan G wrote:For the larger areas I think it works best if the boulder problems are listed under a separate area page, so the routes aren't jumbled together with problems. For example - * Yosemite Valley Bouldering and *Joshua Tree Bouldering*. Keeps it nicely organized without the need for a completely different website.
this would be nice for rumbling bald NC
Altered Ego · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 0

Climbing and bouldering are clearly different pursuits. They have different rating systems and use different equipment. Most climbers do some bouldering but most boulderers don't climb.

Take a look at the what's new page in mass there's 1700 routes that are almost all problems. PebbleBrahject.com?

Marek Sapkovski · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 65
White Privilege wrote:Climbing and bouldering are clearly different pursuits. They have different rating systems and use different equipment.
Big wall climbers, ice climbers, sport climbers and mountaineers all use different equipment and have different rating systems too. Frequently, it's hard to say when a boulder problem ends and a "proper" route begins. I say live and let live :)
Danie White · · SLC, UT · Joined Oct 2012 · Points: 230
White Privilege wrote:in mass there's 1700 routes that are almost all problems.
I think that says more about the geography of Massachusetts than anything.

--a Northeast native
Boissal . · · Small Lake, UT · Joined Aug 2006 · Points: 1,541
White Privilege wrote:Most climbers do some bouldering but most boulderers don't climb
Bwah! That's rich. If you're far enough from the deck to hurt yourself when you hit it, you're climbing. I'd say it happens around move #7-8 for a fair number of boulder problems... Last I checked there were many routes where by move #7-8 you've clipped. Twice.
Altered Ego · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 0

Marek,

Climbers (ice, bigwall, sport, alpine) use ropes, boulderers use crash pads. Climbers use different rating to describe different things like ice vs rock, aid vs free. Boulderers use different rating to describe the same thing, free moves on rock.

Daniel,

That comment was in response to the op's concern about areas being overwhelmed by large amounts of problems being added. I thought MA was a good example of that.

Boissal,

I think it's more an issue of cultural differences between these groups rather than some height at which everything is called climbing.

BBQ · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 554

Most boulders are found in the mountains or near mountains. Thus boulders are projects that take place in the mountains, thus they are mountain projects.

Kirk Miller · · Catalina, AZ and Ilwaco, WA · Joined May 2003 · Points: 1,824
White Privilege wrote:Climbers (ice, bigwall, sport, alpine) use ropes, boulderers use crash pads.
Skiers, slack-liners, riggers, etc. all use ropes. Free-soloists climb without. By the above definition, they're not a climbers?!?!?

Climbers climb stuff. There are too many variations out there to peg it much further, thus a website generally addressing climbing works well.

Carry on.
doligo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 264

Brian, please don't neglect the alpine expedition bouldering. They go to the mountains to wrestle pebbles at the base like in this film - it is the future!

youtu.be/7QBnRhBlUFE

Matt Roberts · · Columbus, OH · Joined Mar 2010 · Points: 85
Bryan G wrote:For the larger areas I think it works best if the boulder problems are listed under a separate area page, so the routes aren't jumbled together with problems. For example - * Yosemite Valley Bouldering and *Joshua Tree Bouldering*. Keeps it nicely organized without the need for a completely different website.
+1

This would also be nice when I'm in an area and just looking to go out for a quick bouldering session, or if I'm traveling somewhere and want to check out the bouldering at a glance.
Altered Ego · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 0

Kirk,

Climbers climb stuff, like trees. Should we include routes up trees on this site as well?

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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