American Fork Quickdraws on Route 66 and The Abyss Missing

David Sahalie wrote:TRAD is the law of the climbing land handed down my the Stonemasters, who had a tradition of going around grabbing each other's booty. 50 years of booty grabbing is nothing to scoff at. This TRADition continues today, sport area or no, the gods MUST have their booty sacrifice! Sport bows to Trad as it is the weaker, spineless, red-headed bastard.

I refer to this, as handed down from on high from 1982:

(Thanks to Tradmanclimbs via Supertopo)
The Booty Rulze as I was taught them about 1982.

#1 Any gear that you leave on a climb due to lack of skill, persistance or sack is booty once you give up on retrieveing it and leave the crag for the day. You get a 12hr reprive if you announce your intentions to recover your gear but you do need to be at the base of the cliff at first light. Get drunk and sleep in will result in your gear becomming booty.

#2. Gear left due to inclemant weather or conditions is booty as a lack of skill was involved in the decisions that you made. You were not fast and strong enough to beat the weather or you made a poor decision regarding the weather or conditions.The mtn beat you and therefore your gear becomes booty.

#3 Any gear left in a rescue or accident resulting in real (not imagined) injury is not booty and shall be left at Rock and snow/IME, the Mountainere etc. to be returned to the proper partys involved. The booty game is supposed to be fun. once someone gets really hurt it is not fun anymore.

#4 If you lose booty do not be a whiny little bitch about it. Asking for your booty to be returned is very bad karma and results in a huge loss of face. If the booty hounds offer to return your lost booty and you accept you lose major face. The proper response is. " No,You keep it, you guys earned it." If they offer to return the booty and you refuse and offer to let them keep the booty and they then, insist that, "No you go ahead and take it back we have pleanty of gear." You may then accept the return of your booty gear. You will still lose some face but not too bad. At this point you need to offer them a libation to ease the shame.

The current trend of not even attempting to recover your own lost gear and headding straight home to whine and cry on the internet demanding the return of your lost booty is absolutly pathetic and shamefull!

thread: mountainproject.com/v/booty… \

Lesson: respect and bow to TRADition fools!

Personally, I take a cordless grinder to Maple to remove permadraws.

If it aint TRADition, it aint climbin! I understand that most of you aren't on my Ethical level, but that it is ok, always room to learn.

Them there cheater draws on that 14 aint gunna clean themselves!

YEEHHAA!

Dave your obsession with other men's booty makes me wonder if you know a showtune or two and perhaps maybe where there is a good shoe sale going on.

David Sahalie wrote: Them there cheater draws on that 14 aint gunna clean themselves! YEEHHAA!

I should let sleeping dogs lie, but the solution I have found when encountering hung draws on a sport climb mere mortals can climb is to replace them with my own as I lead past them and then hang them all at the anchors. It leaves the route clean for the next person so they don't need to trust a random person's draws (look at the Tito Traversa incident), it makes a statement to clean off your damn draws at the end of the day, and it doesn't make me feel guilty for bootying a rack of quickdraws. If I want to booty quickdraws I just follow the college sportwanks around Cedar Canyon and booty the complete shiny new draws they leave behind when they bail.

Trad...that's where you don't have a stick clip, right?