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By phil broscovak
Aug 21, 2013
I'm sorry but I think Randy would be upset with being memorialized by the rock being defaced with tawdry graffiti.
By Tyson Waldron
From: Reno, NV
Oct 27, 2013
So your suggestion is to keep defacing the rock until the memorial is indistinguishable and even more of an eye sore?
By John Wilder
From: Las Vegas, NV
Oct 27, 2013
Tyson, Phil didn't deface the memorial. it's been that way for years and years. I think the scratches appeared within months of the engraving.
By Tyson Waldron
From: Reno, NV
Oct 27, 2013
I didn't imply he did. I just don't see how his comment is constructive. I was ignorant of the history of the climb as well as Randal's contributions to Red Rocks when I first saw this engraving. Without it, I and many others probably still would be.

I didn't make the engraving, Phil didn't try and scratch it out.
I'm not here to argue whether or not the act of the engraving was a good thing or a bad thing. People who knew him obviously put it in place in remembrance of their friend.

The fact is that this is a part of the climb now, and it makes a connection to a big piece of the area's climbing history. Does an engraving, err sorry, "tawdry graffiti" need to be 1,000 years old to be historically valuable?
By John Wilder
From: Las Vegas, NV
Oct 28, 2013
Sorry, Tyson, but you absolutely implied he did- if you didnt intend to, that's fine, but it reads like you assume that he did it. Just clarifying for the record.
By Colonel Mustard
From: Reno, NV
Oct 28, 2013
For the record, JW, that's a pretty simplistic misreading. One could argue that it's willful even. I guess it's a convenient - if completely baffling - sidestep.
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Preserve this memorial and piece of climbing history.

Submitted By: Tyson Waldron on Jul 10, 2013
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Great Red Book (5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c )
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