30' Ground Fall on YouTube

I. Am. Sick. Of. This. BULLSHIT. This guy sucks, no questions asked. you know he does because he helmet cam's his sh#%$y climbing. More and more of this kind of noise is popping up and it's causing me some serious concern for the upcoming generation of climbing. You know, in the past couple of months or so, I have seen countless people between Shelf Road, Indian Creek, Red Rocks and BoCan putting their belay locker through their hard points instead of their, what's that thing called, oh yeah, a belay loop. I wonder why we call it this? certainly not to belay from. hopefully the weenies get too scared one day and sell their shiny unused racks on MP for dirt cheap. I could use a few .75's
Good Grief,
Jon

The speed soloing video is clutch as well. I don't know what is worse, this guys videos or the fact I am watching them on the first warm and sunny day in weeks. youtube.com/watch?v=9CI2zl4…

Get this guy a reality show STAT!!!

Definitely isn't anywhere close to 30 feet.

Isnt she using a grigri? So I am going to guess he was just in groundfall territory and would have decked regardless of belay technique. Plus arent grigris technically "hands free" anyway?

EricSchmidt wrote:Isnt she using a grigri? So I am going to guess he was just in groundfall territory and would have decked regardless of belay technique. Plus arent grigris technically "hands free" anyway?

Look at the vid still, looks like she has two, count 'em, two atc devices on her. Both being employed about as effectively, I might add.

This kid clearly places a lot of stock in being "a climber." Maybe one of the more benevolent among us who leaves nearby Mr. Fleming can take him out and re-teach him everything he thinks he knows. If not, it will inevitably be the same guy who doesn't take him out who will wind up coordinating his rescue when Jason craters from more than 30' (haha, yeah right) off the ground.

At the end of the video you can see it is clearly an atc.

Ha Jon, I am moving to Albuquerque next week, where this guy lives. Maybe I'll just stick to bouldering for a while.

SethG wrote:If you look at his facebook video page you'll see that he is looking for SPONSORSHIP.

Maybe he can get sponsorship from a life insurance company.

Matt Wilson wrote: Maybe he can get sponsorship from a life insurance company.

Looks like he is making his videos private - that will hamper sponsorship opportunities...

(Hi Jason!)

This is a reply to the MP link I posted on his FB. Excuse the ghetto quoting, working from my phone

dang, hopefully people understand I realize fully how much I messed up. I may just take this video down all together. I've gotten a lot of negative feedback on it.. :/

NC Rock Climber wrote: Now, who looked at the anchor at the end of the "aid climbing" video. OMFG, it is a disaster!

I'm still curious as to how he retrieves his gear after climbing the route and setting up botched topropes. Either he can walk around or there is a whole bunch of free booty out there!! Climbing is an expensive hobby when you have to leave gear on every route. He must be from Boulder.

Wahhh all his videos are private now...that really will hamper sponsorship! I was just gonna ask him where to send a hundo!

1. This guy climbs harder than I do with belayers he can't even be sure will catch him. Hell, for that matter I've never soloed anything.
2. Sometimes you don't know what you don't know.
3. Its easy to sit back and criticize this guy but lying underneath this is a larger problem. The sport is growing along with the sponsorships and the hype that surrounds bold climbers. I admire what Alex Honnold can do but how many people outside the sport or new to the sport REALLY understand the backstory behind his solo's-- or any of the 30 second videos that don't explain the months of work that he and Ueli Steck et al really do?
4. If you think this is a problem what are you prepared to do to help this guy or climbers like him? Maybe all you want to be is outraged or just scoff at him but what does that accomplish?
5. Flame away in 3..2..1.. ;-)

Wannabe wrote:I admire what Alex Honnold can do but how many people outside the sport or new to the sport REALLY understand the backstory behind his solo's-- or any of the 30 second videos that don't explain the months of work that he and Ueli Steck et al really do?

+1

I found that most often, that if they don't already climb, they usually don't fully get just how rad it is.

He even had the balls to post it on DPM too lol "DUDE i'm so rad i almost died!" oh.. people don't think i'm rad? "private"

David Sahalie wrote: I would think that if he is reading this the 'scoffing' would accomplish giving him the message that what he did is stupid an he is very lucky not to have been seriously injured or died. what do you suggest?

I don't know-- maybe offer to host a "YER NOT GONNA DIE CAUSE I'LL SHOW YOU HOW NOT TO!" clinic in your area or at your crag. I think some of the clinics that are put on at the gunks after that tragic accident last year are pretty cool. Would he or people like him show-up, no idea, but it couldn't hurt could it? Probably just get you sued though right?! So reach out to the next sketchballer you see. I'm not saying it would be easy but if you're in a real position to criticize this guy that probably means you're strong enough and knowledgeable enough to help out.

sketchballers have a place in society too. I cant imagine life without a few of them really.

speaking of the Gunks having climbing classes for this reason, well, go there on a busy weekend and you'll see a sketchballer on every 4th climb or so. you'd never climb anything if you said something to all of them.

whether its the no hand ATC belay or the belayer tied to a tree 30' back from the wall when the first piece of pro is a stopper you'll see it all there.

Wannabe wrote:3. Its easy to sit back and criticize this guy but lying underneath this is a larger problem. The sport is growing along with the sponsorships and the hype that surrounds bold climbers.

This.