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Bitten by Bat?!

todd w · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2008 · Points: 0
T. Maino wrote:Get a grip Jake. I saved several lives this month. I fix people every day. What do you do that's worthwhile?
Posting on MP.com in the middle of the day isn't worthwhile?

Well, shit. I should get back to work.
EricSchmidt · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 0
T. Maino wrote:Get a grip Jake. I saved several lives this month. I fix people every day. What do you do that's worthwhile?
For a doctor your reading comprehension sure does suck! What did Jake say that you disagree with? Or did you just feel the need to spray about how youre a doctor and we should all bow down to you?
chuffnugget · · Bolder, CO · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 0

@jake,

If he saves lives, he is probably an ER doc, and they don't make nearly as much money as a gerneal practitioner with a cushy 9-5. They work randon shifts dealing with drug-seekers, low income people with no health insurance, and mangled bodies that would make me hurl and give me nightmares.

I understand your frustration with the medical dis-system in the country, but an ER doc is not the problem. It is the pharmacutical companies, the insurance industry and the lobbyists that buy out the governement.

It would be like blaming you for the way the Iraqi and Afganistan wars are going.

T Maino · · Mount Pleasant, SC · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 5

No worries Jake. I too wore a uniform and spent time deployed with the Marines. You are right in that the compensation in medicine doesn't fit the effort. I just had to bite back given we have baseball coaches being paid 10 times more than the cardiac surgeons that sew veins onto people's hearts. I firmly believe the healthcare crisis is driven by the insurance companies and lack of tort reform. No hard feelings here... the system frustrates us all.

T Maino · · Mount Pleasant, SC · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 5

Jake, I see what you're saying. No hard feelings and thanks for your service. Dave, thanks for the kind words even though I'm not an ER doc. They truly earn their pay.

EricS, you are correct. I am better than you. I can read better than you can. I'm better at math than you are. I'm not passive aggressive like you are. I'm better looking and I smell better. My feet are bigger than yours. My tieping and speling skills are better than yours. Lastly, I'm more modest than you are. Please practice bowing down now. I fully expect a heated reply to this message so please don't disappoint me.

EricSchmidt · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 0
T. Maino wrote:Jake, I see what you're saying. No hard feelings and thanks for your service. Dave, thanks for the kind words even though I'm not an ER doc. They truly earn their pay. EricS, you are correct. I am better than you. I can read better than you can. I'm better at math than you are. I'm not passive aggressive like you are. I'm better looking and I smell better. My feet are bigger than yours. My tieping and speling skills are better than yours. Lastly, I'm more modest than you are. Please practice bowing down now. I fully expect a heated reply to this message so please don't disappoint me.
OMG LOLZ you spelled tieping and speling wrong!!! LOLOLOLOL

I love how you think you can just call people out like Jake and basically call them worthless when you have no idea who they are or what they have done.... Im surprised you can put those big feet in your mouth! Keep on backpedaling..
TWK · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 160

SchmidtHead has spoken! My ears are still ringing!

You want to hear about a vocation where compensation doesn't match education, training, skill sets, and long shitty hours?

Try veterinary medicine.

T Maino · · Mount Pleasant, SC · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 5

Hey Eric, did you notice that those were the only two misspelled words? Not too bright are you? I guess I have a better sense of humor than you do as well! The trap was set and you stuck your little troll feet right in! I'm finished schooling you for a while... you're boring.

EricSchmidt · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 0
T. Maino wrote:Hey Eric, did you notice that those were the only two misspelled words? Not too bright are you? I guess I have a better sense of humor than you do as well! The trap was set and you stuck your little troll feet right in! I'm finished schooling you for a while... you're boring.
No, I totally didn't get that you misspelled those two words on purpose.... The previous sentence was sarcasm, which apparently I have to spell out for you because you were to dense to get it the first time.

I would have thought all the LOLZ and LOLOLOLOL would have clued you in.... Shall I draw you a picture next time? Maybe with bright colors and shiny letters so you can understand?

Book smart but apparently no common sense, huh?
Aaron Hope · · San Luis Obispo · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 346

Are all you guys as angry as this in real life?

TWK · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 160

All hail The SchmidtHead!

Jason Wong · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Apr 2008 · Points: 10
T Maino · · Mount Pleasant, SC · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 5

Ok. I yield. The doc has been schooled! I'll go back to my realm of teletypes and snail mail!

Aaron Hope · · San Luis Obispo · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 346

Final Bill...drumroll please...$48,000!!!! The globulin alone was $35K + ER visit. Each immunization shot was $4,300. I'm not kidding. If you think you need the shot, by all means get it, but SHOP AROUND. You're not going to die immediately...call some different hospitals and get a quote ESPECIALLY if you don't have insurance.

Ok. I'm done whining.

Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145

You should see the tab for crofab.

Ben Circello · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 95
aaron hope wrote:Final Bill...drumroll please...$48,000!!!! The globulin alone was $35K + ER visit. Each immunization shot was $4,300. I'm not kidding. If you think you need the shot, by all means get it, but SHOP AROUND. You're not going to die immediately...call some different hospitals and get a quote ESPECIALLY if you don't have insurance. Ok. I'm done whining.
And this is why health care is broken in America. There is absolutely no reason the overhead for services you received was on the same order of magnitude as what was billed out.
Jonathan Dull · · Boone, NC · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 415

Not bitten, however, I did have a bat come out of a crack I was placing a c3 00 in. Those guys can fit anywhere!

EricSchmidt · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 0
Ben Circello wrote: And this is why health care is broken in America. There is absolutely no reason the overhead for services you received was on the same order of magnitude as what was billed out.
I think everyone always realizes that... You going to do anything about it or are ya just here to complain?
Eric G. · · Saratoga Springs, NY · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 70
aaron hope wrote:Final Bill...drumroll please...$48,000!!!! The globulin alone was $35K + ER visit. Each immunization shot was $4,300. . . Ok. I'm done whining.
WHAT?

You have paid for the right to whine as much as you want.
kyle howe · · Knoxville, TN · Joined May 2013 · Points: 394

For anyone that stumbles across this old thread looking for information or guidance on bat encounters, here is my story below for what it's worth: 

I was climbing in TN, put my hand in a deep pocket, just big enough for my full hand to go in and rested on it. I sat on it for awhile, maybe 1 or 2 minutes. At some point, I felt some tiny pin pricks, not painful, but noticeable. The bite or sting left a tiny red dot, no redness or swelling. I didn't think much of it until later that night when I remembered that two of my friends had had encounters with bats on climbs. Now restless with the thought that a bat bit me, I went back the next day to rap in and investigate the hole. Unfortunately, no bat, just a hoard of ladybugs. 

I called the regional lab that tests for rabies, saw my PCP, spoke with an epidemiologist at the health dept, all said my risk was extremely low because I had no idea if it even was a bat, i.e. I didn't see or hear a bat. They also mentioned that if it was a bat, it was certainly not acting rabid being in a dark hole during the daytime hours! They all left it up to me to make the decision if I should go to the ER and begin the rabies vaccine. Concerned about the possibility of dying of rabies, I went to the ER. At the ER ready to get the shots, the ER doc that was to administer the initial IG (immunoglobulin) shot and who had loads of experience dealing with rabies and the vaccine advised against it saying if it were him, he wouldn't get the shot. (side note: he told me the initial shot was $10k+). I ended up declining and left the ER. Long story long, I still didn't feel comfortable doing nothing, so I ended up getting the four post-exposure vaccines from the health dept sans the initial IG that has to be received at the ER. The four shots are about $400/piece.    

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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