Solutions vs 5.10 Team

I have the Solutions right now, and they're awesome.

Can anyone comment on the difference between the Teams and the Solutions?

Any decisive edge?

For those who have tried both, do you have a favorite?

just my experience, i have tried both and my teams seem to be a bit more durable and a bit more comfortable, but on the other hand my solutions seem better on long steep roofs, just my opinion im sure others have had a different experience

The Solutions are definitely stiffer than the Teams; as a result I like them more for technical vertical stuff. On truly steep terrain, they're both fantastic shoes; neither really outperforms the other. At least with me, the biggest difference is in the fit. The Solution seems to be narrower and have a much more symmetrical toebox which fits my foot much better; that being said, the Team isn't too far off. The Solutions stretch significantly more out of the box, meaning they conform to your foot better; breaking them in is also a pain. The Teams are awful to get on and off. I would lean towards the Solutions, but I doubt you can go wrong either way.

I had the Solution, but my Teams never flexed enough, so I quit and came to the Conclusions.
they never need to be re-souled

Ok, so Teams are more durable?

If you already have a pair of solutions why not buy a pair of teams and fill out the quiver a little bit? Or buy a non-downturned technical edging shoe for some diversity.

Edited to add:
I agree with the above posters, the solutions are generally stiffer than the teams. I like them both, and think either of them will allow you to climb plenty hard. I prefer the 5.10 rubber to the vibram, but once resoled with c4 I'd be hard pressed to show a preference between the two shoes (though they climb very differently, stiff downturn and soft downturn doesnt make much difference to me).

I might just take the plunge and buy some Teams.

Where do the blackwings fit into the mix

worth russell wrote:Where do the blackwings fit into the mix

I would put blackwings pretty close to teams, Also quite soft/sensitive. I really like mine, but they're a half size too big, otherwise I'd be more interested in hanging onto em.

Solutions feel molded to my heel, but Teams (and all other 5.10s I've tried) felt a little sloppy. Check the fit.

Craig T wrote:Solutions feel molded to my heel, but Teams (and all other 5.10s I've tried) felt a little sloppy. Check the fit.

I thought the same thing till I sized down a half size. Generally in 5.10 shoes I find that if I find a size that feels snug but baggy in the heel, and then go down a half size the heel fills up and the shoe doesnt feel much tighter (especially after 2 or 3 sessions). YMMV

Demo the teams first, for me the solutions fit great. For me, for the heel of the teams to be worth anything I needed a size that was so tight I could barely get the shoe on and leaving them on in the gym between routes or problems was not an option.

Uhhh i nmy experience vibram rubber is mor durable than stealth, plus the new teams have a super thin sole if I am not mistaking.

In my opinion new teams are always active but at the same time old team are experienced.

_____________________________________
hockinternational.com/CMA/